Posts by salem9

Quote from taesv6

what does a comment about mamamoo have to do with bts

I quoted an army calling out Mamamoo for doing bleh things in the past. Pretty much 90% of those things were also done by BTS. So why the double standards against the girls?

Quote from aclassyteaparty

mamamoo has done blackface and hwasa has said the nword in a cover before. those are the most egregious things she herself was involved in. mamamoo as a whole has done some bleh things.

What about BTS sis? They’ve had pretty similar “scandals”

IOI

Even if their career was extremely short, they made a bigger impact than most mid tier ggs who are pretty much interchangeable with similar stats and physical sales which aren’t very impressive

4minute

BAP

People really mentioning Itzy... like really? lol

Why would she go solo? Izone has barely any general public support so it’s not like she can get where Chungha is rn

They are destined to flop when the group disbands either way just like how happened to IOI and Wanna one members

AKP is the real revolution

Japan has a bigger concert culture and casuals spend a good amount of money to see live shows as an entertainment opportunity

In SK only fans attend to these shows

No idea about the average price of tickets in those countries

Quote from nagaface

NiziU are way bigger. They already achieved #1 on Oricron Album chart. They had 370,000 album sales that were just pre-orders for their debut album. People are biased thinking Twice just because they introduced KPOP Into the Japanese market.

Stats don't lie.

Pretty sure a big part of NiziU's popularity is thanks to Twice

Quote from StrawberryChaeng

ppl dont even talk about f(x) anymore... Meanwhile every girl group is covering Miss A songs even 5 years after they disbanded.

For real? people still bully Amber on twitter out of nowhere, yet people can't name any Miss A member

They are basically known for their debut hit and that's it

Quote from superyeah

I'm guessing the biggest challenge for them right now is Wendy's recovery. Once SM figures that out, Red Velvet will be fine.

Wendy can perform (at least for now). If there's something holding them back is definitely Irene's scandal or the conversations about their contract renewal

f(x) hands down

Biggest sales, bigger fandom, bigger individual recognition and people still talk about them to this day

Miss A and 4minute were hard carried by Suzy and Hyuna

Quote from SailorVenus

what happened to nogizaka46 & akb48?

They have huge fanbases but GP doesn’t care about them

Their streaming numbers are kinda weak

Quote from SandyBee3

Also BP, they naturally seem to attract people even if they do nothing.

they attract people because they have an expensive image which a non top company can't really provide

GP doesn't really care about Aki-p groups anymore and due to the whole pandemic situation their position in year end charts such as the HOT 100 singles is kinda bad

Twice, on the other hand, despite not hitting 1 million sales on oricon, they lead in streaming platforms and Youtube views. The only group actually competing with them is NiziU

So, how big is Twice in Japan rn?

Mamamoo paved the way for self produced new gen ggs

Just sayin

Quote from bangtan-hoodie

jisoo undeveloped bye lol

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Jisoo as a vocalist is pretty bad. Idk why you people complain

Quote from kfan2021

As an internet vocal expert i declare that the list and ranking is wrong.

Good! Elaborate please :)

Quote from selfmate

do you believe the list is correct in both the tier structure and tje placement of the idols

Overall I agree. It's actually kind of sad to see that nobody else is competing with Wendy

The only controversial spot would be Yuju. She used to be better in the past but now idk what happened

Quote from motorp77

I feel like the public is less interested in very technical vocal abilities nowadays. I don't think it will get better in the future. It also doesn't help that some of the best vocalists of the entire industry are still releasing songs to this day, so newer strong vocalists have less room. They also have a lot of time to develop, as some of the best 2nd gen vocalists were not born with godlike voices (maybe Sohyang she might).

Of course. Good vocalists are rarely appreciated in SK as they always worship distinctive and overly "feminine" vocal tones (IU, Suhyun, BAek Yerin, etc)

As for the good vocalists still releasing music. I don't think those releases are even popular nowadays, with the exception of Davichi maybe. Even Ailee has been flopping for years now

The reason why it will get even worst is because the industry is focused 100% on visuals and difficult dancing routines