Neither should you care, but here you are.
Replying to you quoting me? Should I have ignored you then? Noted for a future occasion. 
Posts by RunOutOfIdeas
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Because it's dismissive and condescending, not to mention the implied hypocrisy of the people reacting negatively to this issue. The reactions would be the same, were it any other kpop company, but I highly doubt that then you'd be here talking about how hilarious it's that people would "show outrage".
Feel free to think so.
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And for the 2nd time I tell you the difference is this time, for the first time ever, there's actual evidence. So there's no room for debate whether fans are overreacting and making up conspiracy theories. Armys cried about that shit for for nearly an entire decade but you can't stand seeing people be indignant for 2 days over the knowledge that their faves were trashed AND sabotaged by hybe. They should just shut up and move on because YOU don't think this is new or unique enough?
As for the rest of the whataboutism, there's absolutely nothing shocking or hypocritical about people being interested in a CURRENT scandal that's literally still ongoing as we speak.
If you want to be angry with me, at least be angry for the things I have said and not make thing up. You are way smarter than that and I know it well.
All I said is that I found it entertaining and funny. And I didn't stop anyone from saying whatever they want. But I got angry quotes about it as if I prohibited anyone from saying what they wanted. Even this is funny if you think about it.
If there's someone not standing others express themselves, it's not me.
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Armys cry about YGE shadiness without proof, just their own delusional minds bc they hate BB, but it was bighit that used BB name to promote BTS in the beginning, the same bighit that made headlines about BTS surpassing exo in album sales, etc.
Unless you prove me with actual docs like this one that's happening in Hybe the "theories" armys created to hate on yge and sme bc of BB and exo is just theories. And if sme and YGE were as shady as hybe is being then I'm sure BTS wouldn't be here right now like hybe is trying to do with DKZ.
And unlike what you are saying YGE entertainment and sme entertainment are hated a loooot for years and as they should. But you don't see "yge stans or sme stans" defending them, you see blinks, vips, blackjacks, teumes, etc protecting the groups, but fighting for a company like hybe stans are doing? Nope, I've never saw it before.
Hated but supported financially. So it's pointless when they earn their millions.
If you want to be that naive and think it's just theories, I won't stop you.
And please don't waste your time trying to convince me. Nothing will make me not think that everything is way too similar. The reactions, the arguments, the need to express outrage.
And we both know that what I think means nothing really. None of you should care.
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Why do you think this is happening? Do you think kpop fans are acting like this bc of what? Maybe, just MAYBE it's bc their faves are being involved and not just being judged by shitty hybe staff, but bc it's being proved that Hybe used the media to spread hate and personal info about others idols or maybe bc even nugus aren't being sparred or maybe bc hybe has being faking their groupS success for years or maybe bc Hybe is a piece of shit or maybe bc they are trying to destroy their own gg bc of nothing but pure jealousy and ego or maybe bc they treated people like shit and now karma is finally hitting their reputation or maybe it's bc like you said, everybody here is acting all shocked and silly bc of x or y. Maybe we are too harsh on poor Hybe, maybe kpop fans should stop giving this attention.. uhum, yeah, maybe.
But don't worry, hybe company stans are as dumb as Hybe so they won't disappear neither fail, they will be a happy family acting like their success and trajectory are clean and real.
This is why I said that because of me being in kpop for so long , I have seen things go a full circle.
What you said is exactly the same as a lot of Armys said when there said the same things about YG and SM.
This is why I think the reactions are comical because back them it was victim mentality that was laughable but now it's legit outrage.
Despite the fact that I do think that people should be outraged, as I have made abundantly clear repeatedly that they do deserve any criticism they get , I can't help but find it hilarious the difference in reactions at the same time. Perhaps from he very same people.
I said it again in this very thread. If YG got money from fans after the drug and prostitution scandal and SM after the slave contact , blacklisting and the other myriad shady things they did, I don't think that Hybe stans will be any different and stop giving them money.
When it comes to their faves success, kpop fans won't care much about such things as morals. It's been proven time and again.
So I don't think Hybe will crumble completely either.
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Nope. Wrong. Per the norm when you make assumptions and assign individual motives and projections to a massive, diverse group of people.
I hate HYBE exclusively because of what they've done the past 8 months, and I know many people who feel the same. My hatred for that company has nothing to do with some superficial jealously over the success of them and their idols; I hate them for the very valid reasons that they are evil pieces of shit trying to destroy my favorite active group.
I don't need any other manufactured, hackneyed reasons to hate that dumpster fire of a company.
Cool story.
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It's obtuse and disingenuous to act like this reaction isn't largely due to the fact this is literally the first time in kpop history we got to see actual documents of this practice - the so called viral marketing, market evaluation and interference with rival companies and groups-
Yes, we all knew kpop companies have most likely always done this, but it has always been a speculation, an open secret; something everyone knew happened but could neither prove or refute with absolute conviction. This time however, we're looking at the irrefutable evidence and the actual reports with our own eyes.
It's equally obtuse to act like it's the only reason why this is happening. I think you know yourself what this is happening. If people don't want to call a spade, a spade and pretend otherwise, far be it from me to stop anyone.
The fact is that Hybe being stupid, arrogant and greedy made everyone their enemy. And the sudden and huge success of their groups, along with a lot of fans being smug about it, made the majority of kpop dislike them.
It is what it is. I don't blame anyone for wanting to get out of their system this dislike they have had for so long. There was a time that I was obsessed with talking about how bad Bighit/Hybe was and that earned me a manti reputation and most Armys here didn't like me. So, I kinda understand the feeling.
But this 'shock' and surprise when it was obvious this is a common kpop practise is almost comical to me.
If some of you want to collectively pretend it's like that, be my guests. But I think it's obvious what's the truth here.
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To me it's entertaining because I have been into kpop for such a long time that I have seen things go full circle. In the past when other companies did the same, kpop fans never took it seriously or they even made fun of such things.
Obviously, Hybe deserves every single criticism and seeing them getting humbled warms my condescending heart but it's still funny to see the way people react.
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I mean, as entertaining and cute as it is to see kpop fans clutch their pearls in shock and pretend that such practices are brand new in kpop, especially when they refused to acknowledge that they used to happen in the past, it's still way worse with Hybe.
I will say this again and again and again..
Not only did they try to build their whole image as a better company that cares about artists, but they had to deal with such constant shade with BTS by other companies and industry people. To see them do the same thing to their own groups and other small groups is really disappointing and disgusting.
Pretending to be morally superior to the other shady companies and then do exactly like they had been doing to other groups is peak hypocrisy.
It's also obvious that they don't have the long-standing connections in the industry to get away with shady and greedy actions, the way the other big companies have done so for so long. That's what also happens when you try to make everyone your enemy by trying to buy their companies left and right in order to be the kpop overlord.
They had such a nice thing and their greed ruined it. I will never not be salty about it.
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I always tend to feel weird that I get happy that the Hybe is getting heat for their hypocrisy and phoniness because it's sad that the artists keep getting affected because of the Hybe people's and mainly BSH' greed and stupidity.
Despite those, almost, brainwashing, Weverse articles and those weird briefing praising their asses for their"innovative spirit and making kpop better', it was obvious they were no better than the other companies and they only cared to build a kpop empire by achieving a monopoly.
And while, now, there are more Armys out there who are saying what us called Mantis have been saying for years, they are still a small minority and a lot of people will still support Hybe because they think that doing otherwise will be an attack towards BTS.
But since kpop fans gave money to YG after the prostitution scandal and to SM after they blacklisted their own artist for wanting humane working conditions, I have low hopes for Hybe stans not giving money to Hybe. Kpop fans will do what kpop fans always do.
It is quite hypocritical, though, that Hybe stans have become like those other kpop fans they used to ridicule for their weird attachment to companies.
Anyway, I will never lose hope for Jin Hit entertainment. Now it's the right time for this masterplan and maybe we will be blessed enough to see it happen.
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It's giving me Avril Lavigne vibes at some points, along with the other comparisons already mentioned here
It's a really nice song but the apt part is too annoying for me to replay it much.
Her hair is perfection. I so love this style on her.
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Blop
The second half of the good is good, I found the first part just ok.
The mv was very visually pleasing and she looked really pretty.
As a non fan, I think this is a step down for Jennie. She seems like she can do way more but she might want to try different things now that she is not in yg anymore so that's nice for her.
I just can't help but find it really interesting that of all the BP solos, Jisoo was the one who did it the right way, well according to my opinion, and showed the most charisma and star power as a solo. The one most people expected the least to do that.
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The only group I stopped listening to was Big bang after the Burning Sun scandal. Seungri ruined their music for me.
Apart from them, when I was way more involved in kpop in the past, even though at times it felt weird and I was close to it, I still listened to groups whose fandom I didn't like, otherwise I would have had to drop all kpop groups, even my faves, as toxicity is part and parcel with all kpop fandoms.
These days I would have to exclude most ggs from my playlist for the same reason, and it would be weird.
If I like a song, I add it to my playlist.
The main reason I stopped listening to certain groups was the fact that the music wasn't that good to be anymore. Like with Winner,Ikon, Seventeen, Ateez, Gidle, Mamamoo etc.
And with the way kpop is progressing, my list will grow. I guess kpop doesn't hit the right places for me anymore.
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is there any point in reasoning with him?
he is literally a combination of sm stan + male gg stanNothing will change, I know that much. It was more of an observation.
Still, some people acting superior like we haven't all been here long enough to see what embarrassing things they have posted can seem weird to me.
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This never ending mess is Hybe getting served its karma. The world is healing.
As for JK, there's a possibility that he has been displeased with Hybe for some time now, probably with the way they handled his 'scandals' and the general incompetence when it comes to supporting BTS properly. And since the girls are younger and in a more difficult place to defend themselves, he felt like he needed to support them.
Maybe, it was a jab against MHJ too. He knows himself how a mentor can change when money and power iate involved and how artists can be used by them for their own ambitions and greed. And MHJ does seem like this type of person.
It's a little ironic, though, that what he probably intended to be a post of peace and support is used by every side to either promote their own fanwar agenda or deny the fact that he might be done with is happening to fellow artists. -
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I really like it
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Pretty girls with a lot of potential. That's the good thing about this debut.
As for the song, I wasn't underwhelmed because I didn't expect much from Teddy. His music has got stale. A little onomatopoeia, now moving to some animal sounds, a little bragging swag and ka-ching dollah references and you have a Teddy song.
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Bop, they really have great tts. It has 90s/ Vogue kinda vibes and I like that.
