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I thought this the other day if kpop banned lip syncing Jyp groups would suffer the most I mean despite people trolling sm Red velvet Nct and aespa can actually sing very well but twice ( with the exception of 3) itzy and stray kids (with the exception of 1) can’t sing live so imagine when dancing

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wdym Itzy always sing live… have even watched any of there stages
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not all JYP's GGs are bad though, Miss A were decent. But i think WG was the worst. what makes it specially bad is JYP's line distribution where they make sure everyone gets equal line, so members that can't sing at all (looking at you Sohee) ends up getting as much line as very fine vocalists such as Sunye and Yeeun and the result is very regrettable.
that's not true at all. only SM groups are unarguably better than JYP's but the same can't be said about all of HYBE's and YG's groups, i wouldn't says groups like TXT, Enhypen and iKON are necessarily better than 2PM and GOT7. Heck not even Big Bang and BTS are necessarily better. maybe YG's ggs have an edge over jyp's but that's about it.
speaking strictly about idol groups
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wdym Itzy always sing live… have even watched any of there stages
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They should shut up
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stray kids (with the exception of 1) can’t sing live so imagine when dancing

you don't have to make up ridiculous stories to feel better about every single performance of your faves being identical
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95% of kpop would sound terrible
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They should shut up
are you mental? lmao
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it's the reason why JYP GG songs aren't difficult to sing
it's to let them be able to sing decently while doing hard choregraphy
no shade intended but Lia strain 98% of the time when she try to hit a high note, imagine JYP giving them songs harder to sing, it would be so hard for lia to reach the note without having her voice crack
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I thought this the other day if kpop banned lip syncing Jyp groups would suffer the most I mean despite people trolling sm Red velvet Nct and aespa can actually sing very well but twice ( with the exception of 3) itzy and stray kids (with the exception of 1) can’t sing live so imagine when dancing

ITZY and Stray Kids sing live frequently. If there are people saying they can't sing just for saying, you don't see a lot of people making fun of their actual lives.
Tbf, It's easier you see people dragging Red Velvet and aespa for their lack of living singing, despite their fans saying they are so good, while not offering anything else on the stage. Not saying that I agree or not, but It is what It is.
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the judgement when they haven't even debut yet to judge their singing, meanwhile we have groups out there having autotune to sing for them
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they're projecting

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it's the reason why JYP GG songs aren't difficult to sing
it's to let them be able to sing decently while doing hard choregraphy
no shade intended but Lia strain 98% of the time when she try to hit a high note, imagine JYP giving them songs harder to sing, it would be so hard for lia to reach the note without having her voice crack
If they have trouble singing easy songs then that shows how terrible they are. There's no way a half decent group could mess up something like more and more or other Twice songs but here we are.
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Can you really call it a good "performance" if they only dance and mime the actual singing? That's only doing half the work. That isn't a good performance at all. If I got half the questions right on an exam no one would be praise as a great student, just average.
Black pink aren't great singers or dancers but they can do both to a decent level. At concerts especially Coachella they showed that can perform well. SM ggs are famous for their singing and dancing: SNSD are still top tier, Red Velvet were good mostly and FX were good too in the beginning till everyone gave up on being an idol. Only aespa has been lipsyncing by at least we know they can actually sing better than any JYP gg.
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Can you really call it a good "performance" if they only dance and mime the actual singing? That's only doing half the work. That isn't a good performance at all. If I got half the questions right on an exam no one would be praise as a great student, just average.
Black pink aren't great singers or dancers but they can do both to a decent level. At concerts especially Coachella they showed that can perform well. SM ggs are famous for their singing and dancing: SNSD are still top tier, Red Velvet were good mostly and FX were good too in the beginning till everyone gave up on being an idol. Only aespa has been lipsyncing by at least we know they can actually sing better than any JYP gg.
Snsd didn't have a good stage presence same goes for RV. It's such a pain to watch lives of sm ggs. And they rarely performed live. BP did a really good job at cochella but their main and lead vocals aren't better than twice's.
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Snsd didn't have a good stage presence same goes for RV. It's such a pain to watch lives of sm ggs. And they rarely performed live. BP did a really good job at cochella but their main and lead vocals aren't better than twice's.
SNSD didn't have stage presence... Big YIKES. Someone has no clue about kpop. Or they're a jealous hater.
So performing at GDA straight after winning a Daesang, nerves are high, no in ear monitors and they still put out this fully live
External Content m.youtube.comContent embedded from external sources will not be displayed without your consent.Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy.That surprise encore performance was better than anything Twice have EVER done. If that's shit stage presence then no gg has any sort of stage oresnec when most can't even sing live for a basic music show.
And yeah I already said Black pink have worse singers but they still outperformed Twice whi can't even do an encore without an audience. Meanwhile black pink are doing it live in front of thousands.
Twice have your brainwashed...
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SNSD didn't have stage presence... Big YIKES. Someone has no clue about kpop. Or they're a jealous hater.
So performing at GDA straight after winning a Daesang, nerves are high, no in ear monitors and they still put out this fully live
External Content m.youtube.comContent embedded from external sources will not be displayed without your consent.Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy.That surprise encore performance was better than anything Twice have EVER done. If that's shit stage presence then no gg has any sort of stage oresnec when most can't even sing live for a basic music show.
And yeah I already said Black pink have worse singers but they still outperformed Twice whi can't even do an encore without an audience. Meanwhile black pink are doing it live in front of thousands.
Twice have your brainwashed...
the answer is: jealous hater! tragic how they make people shade twice lul once are more harmful than haters sometimes
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At least their stage presence has improved, looking at itzy they might be lacking in vocals as every other jyp group but you can still enjoy their performance. Also i feel like the ngg is going to have good vocals as well as good performance so the jyp known for only having "good personality" idols and not actual talents is in the past.
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they dont even sound good...
and stage presence isn't the same as singing
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they dont even sound good...
and stage presence isn't the same as singing
Your trolling game needs a lot of work.
How can SNSD of all groups don't sound good lmao.
That's them with singing without in ear monitors and they still manage to hit every note (except a couple missed beats here and there because they can't clearly hear music without monitors). Meanwhile Twice with monitors, no audience and zero pressure for encores still manage to suck.
I never said stage presence was just singing alone but you can't say a group has stage presence if theyre not actually singing. SNSD manage to sing fine without lip sync AND do choreography. That's actual stage presence, not pretending to sing.
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Snsd didn't have a good stage presence same goes for RV. It's such a pain to watch lives of sm ggs. And they rarely performed live. BP did a really good job at cochella but their main and lead vocals aren't better than twice's.
LMAO. Typical western fan. Jumping around stage pulling baddie or cute faces is "stage presence".
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Your trolling game needs a lot of work.
How can SNSD of all groups don't sound good lmao.
That's them with singing without in ear monitors and they still manage to hit every note (except a couple missed beats here and there because they can't clearly hear music without monitors). Meanwhile Twice with monitors, no audience and zero pressure for encores still manage to suck.
I never said stage presence was just singing alone but you can't say a group has stage presence if theyre not actually singing. SNSD manage to sing fine without lip sync AND do choreography. That's actual stage presence, not pretending to sing.
Just because they're SNSD doesn't give them a pass. SNSD in their early days, besides taeyeon, weren't as great at singing live either. I was somewhat of a SONE, followed them until Jessica left and the group went somewhat hiatus. As a true fan, you can't really believe that... do you?
It's not shameful to say my artists was bad at singing, because artists do grow, and that's what matters. When you grow with your artists, you will learn to embrace it.
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Just because they're SNSD doesn't give them a pass. SNSD in their early days, besides taeyeon, weren't as great at singing live either. I was somewhat of a SONE, followed them until Jessica left and the group went somewhat hiatus. As a true fan, you can't really believe that... do you?
It's not shameful to say my artists was bad at singing, because artists do grow, and that's what matters. When you grow with your artists, you will learn to embrace it.
Sis you are/were a borderline fake Sone who's making up stuff now.
This was them right the beginning
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They're even better when they did the dance which is still one of the hardest any gg have every performed. Hundreds of ggs including with years of experience have copied INTW and none have come close to the standard SNSD set as debut rookies. Why is that? If SNSD were weak in the beginning how come other ggs still struggle to match what a day 1 rookie group did?
So no it's "aLl BuT tAeYeOn WeRe BaD sInGeRs" or "ThEy GeT a FrEe PaSs". There's clear evidence to show they were good from beginning. I don't need to be ashamed when I talk about my ult group abilities because they were already good to start with. As the years went by SNSD have gotten even better to the point where any of the vocal line can easily compete for main singer position in 90% of ggs (and looking at how weak gg singers are these days I bet even Yuri it Sooyoung could at least try to compete) and the sub vocals/weakest singers sound ok, much more stable than most other groups.
Maybe the question is why you're trying to downplay SNSD when as day 1 rookies they were already as good as if not better than ggs like Twice currently well into their careers.
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the worst part about Twice's singing is how members like Chaeyoung, Mina and Dahyun will barely whisper their lines into the mic so basically no sound comes not. not gonna lie, it's kind of hilarious how half of the song will be straight up empty during encores because the non-vocals members (sans Tzuyu) are too scared to make sound lmaoooo.
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SNSD didn't have stage presence... Big YIKES. Someone has no clue about kpop. Or they're a jealous hater.
So performing at GDA straight after winning a Daesang, nerves are high, no in ear monitors and they still put out this fully live
External Content m.youtube.comContent embedded from external sources will not be displayed without your consent.Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy.That surprise encore performance was better than anything Twice have EVER done. If that's shit stage presence then no gg has any sort of stage oresnec when most can't even sing live for a basic music show.
And yeah I already said Black pink have worse singers but they still outperformed Twice whi can't even do an encore without an audience. Meanwhile black pink are doing it live in front of thousands.
Twice have your brainwashed...
Not a hater , actually I believe they're the most iconic kpop gg. But there were many ggs back in the day who had better stage presence than them.
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