“Filler member”

Filler member usually means a member that isn't very talented at singing, dancing or rapping. They might be decent, but the other members are better and overshadow that member. Obviously they still deserve to be an idol because all idols work their ass off. But I still wanted to describe the term.

I also don't like the term filler member.

I can have a least liked member from a group but in no way it means I don't like them. Just a little less than the others.

I agree, it feels so mean to say that about a person who trained to make it into the groups after all. Unless they're not hardworking or kind at all, people can still see their charms subjectively and find something that draws them in.

"Filler member" seems like such a bad term anyway for what people mean. "Filler" implies they're just hanging out in the spot, while, IDK Michael Jordan's off on the sidelines recovering until he can swap in again. Considering kpop groups range from duos (e.g. 15&, Akdong Musician) to 21+ (e.g. Apeace, NCT), it's not like companies are sitting around going "aw, geez, I really want to debut these four, but I'm not allowed to!"

I kind of feel the same way about "visual hole." If the company really thought they were so hideous, they wouldn't have debuted; companies know what they're doing, and part of what they're doing is understanding that everyone they select will connect to part of their target audience. Take even a group as big as NCT, and even a forum like this one, and all the members will be selected as at least one person's favorite.

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Filler member usually means a member that isn't very talented at singing, dancing or rapping. They might be decent, but the other members are better and overshadow that member. Obviously they still deserve to be an idol because all idols work their ass off. But I still wanted to describe the term.

It still doesn't count because usually, those members end up being the biggest Stan attractors in their groups at least that's what I've noticed in fav groups.

Whoever thinks there are filler members just don't understand that every group member has role to play either on or off stage or both.

Filler members arent filler if they bring in more stans to the group.

Filler member is another word to say untalented. It's mean but when I ventured into K-pop years ago and heard this term I won't lie I had a second thought. Some of these members are just there.

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To this day I see it but even with that mindset, filler members do contribute to the groups. K-pop is more than singing, dancing and rapping. You have to do the whole 9 yards. So having a variety of members that bring other talents to the table apart from the major 3 is what a K-pop group is in my opinion.

Anyway, there's a lot of K-pop terms that are really offensive like visual holes.

I'm sure every member is chosen for a reason but not everybody sees it that way...