South Korea's New Army Law

  • Can someone explain how it works? I read that idols like johnny, Mark and tbz members don't have to enlist, and it's basically only Vernon and a few others?

    Sure. Some idols you mention are actual citizens of a country other than Korea. They just work in Korea with a work visa. Work Visa's are temporary permits that allow the individual to make money, live, and anything else they want to do in Korea more or less. They are almost but not legally citizens of Korea. Those people since they are not citizens of Korea do not have to register with the military and are ineligible from serving.


    Other case may be citizens of Korea but have never resided in Korea but lived their lives outside of the country. They were born in Korea so they are technically Korean citizens but shortly after that they moved to say Great Brittan. They don't really travel outside of GB so they have no passport or anything and are just residence holders in GB. Those also are not to be drafted even though they are citizens. They are not forced to go to Korea and join the military.


    Similarly if you are a Korean citizen but have a passport from another country (say refugee status) and not one from Korea then you are exempt from military service in SK (until) you reside for 3 years inside Korea. If you stay longer than 3 years you are then required to join the military.


    Say you have a dual citizenship of GB and Korea for whatever reason and have two passports for whatever reason. In that case because you have a passport from Korea you will be drafted UNLESS you renounce your Korean Citizenship and retain only your GB one. This actually happened and the person was blacklisted from the country. I don't think that would happen though if you primarily reside outside of Korea but in the case in question he didn't but was always living in SK and not GB but fled to GB with his UK passport.


    These are the area's they are trying to clear up. Most of these scenarios are VERY rare which is why it is taking so long to clear up.

  • Basically, Mark Jacob and Johnny all have foreign passports, Felix and Bang Chan have Australian passports, however Vernon has a duel citizenship and Jake also has a duel citizen ship.


    Vernon, who is older than eighteen, hasn’t renounced his dual citizenship but Jake has the opportunity to renounce his Korean passport and keep the Australian one so he probably won’t have to serve in the military:

  • thank you for clearing it up for me! it looks like they need to release more specifications because it could become messy if it stays open to interpretation?

  • thank you for clearing it up for me! it looks like they need to release more specifications because it could become messy if it stays open to interpretation?

    Most media posts just gloss over things but the actual languages in law get pretty specific.

  • Is this prospective or retrospective? Will those who did not have to enlist before be required to enlist now? Or does this law only apply to those who are coming of age of enlistment?

  • They do have a crazy dude with nukes and a big (but obsolete) military force just north of them.


    They should do like Israel and make both males and females serve.

    Israel does that and they have a pretty decent birthrate so it should be considered. I mean as long as NK a possible threat people need to serve.

  • Basically, Mark Jacob and Johnny all have foreign passports, Felix and Bang Chan have Australian passports, however Vernon has a duel citizenship and Jake also has a duel citizen ship.


    Vernon, who is older than eighteen, hasn’t renounced his dual citizenship but Jake has the opportunity to renounce his Korean passport and keep the Australian one so he probably won’t have to serve in the military:

    Wrong, disregarding cultural reasons for keeping his nationality, unless Vernon wants to give up his career in SK he can't escape conscription by renouncing his passport, or he will be hunted down not only by public opinion but the courts too.


    Even before this new law, back in 2002 a Korean-American singer Steve Yoo gave up his korean nationality just before he had to enlist. The Korean government considered this an act of desertion and deported him to the US and even banned him from returning for life. In 2016 he tried filing a lawsuit to overturn the ban but the Seoul Admnistrative Court ruled against him.


    Trying to escape enlistment in SK is one of the easiest ways to get the public to hate you.

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  • Wrong, disregarding cultural reasons for keeping his nationality, unless Vernon wants to give up his career in SK he can't escape conscription by renouncing his passport, or he will be hunted down not only by public opinion but the courts too.


    Even before this new law, back in 2002 a Korean-American singer Steve Yoo gave up his korean nationality just before he had to enlist. The Korean government considered this an act of desertion and deported him to the US and even banned him from returning for life. In 2016 he tried filing a lawsuit to overturn the ban but the Seoul Admnistrative Court ruled against him.


    Trying to escape enlistment in SK is one of the easiest ways to get the public to hate you.

    I don’t think Vernon can even renounce his dual citizenship anymore so he’ll have to serve anyway since he’s older than eighteen.

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