[POLL] True or False: Spaghetti is "basically the copay and paste version of Young Posse"

100%! I mean, not the song, but the concept is definetaly. I'm not surprised HYBE is copying nugu groups, it's nothing new.

I was surprised I didn't see a scene like this in their MV.🤣

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Just watch their MVs.

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Am I the only one who thinks its young p*ssy every time they read the name

My brain just reads it as young poser every time

I think it's more of an emulation of gnarly.

young posse is not that relevant lbr

ohhhhhhhhkayyyyyyy i did my internal monitoring report so I will be the MHJ here.

THEY PLAGIARIZED MACARONI CHEESE.

1.They both are about pasta

2.They both have 5 members

3.They both talk about how its hot i.e All my girls hot and ready(LSF) Shorty goes like it's hot, too 아뜨 hot (YP)
4.They both cook food in MV, they both turn tiny in the MV, have simmilar color schemes

5.Both of them get nauseous during MV

Final verdict: Its a copypasta

Who is that nugu 😭

Felt it was more like gnarly and HYBE is just generally going for that sound this time around.

I love Young Posse. What else can I say?

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This is a useless feat when you have them writing lyrics like

Literally nonsense. And theres more.

Yeah, did you read all of their lyrics? Because there are much better ones.

The whole "COLD" EP was about bullying, abuse etc.

YOUNG POSSE - COLD Lyrics and Tracklist | Genius

Also, show me 1 Le Sserafim song with a meaningful lyrics.

Peak artistry, right?😂

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I think it's more of an emulation of gnarly.

young posse is not that relevant lbr

What is this argument even? Is this a joke? Since when relevancy matters? It's okay to copy nugu groups because not many people know them? Like, WTF????

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I don't like "Spaghetti," but it doesn't resemble anything by Young Posse. More like the recent wave of songs that were made for shock value like "Gnarly" and (to a lesser extent) "Crazy."

Looks like many of you don't understand why people say HYBE copied Young Posse. We're talking about the MV, not the song.

It's not the first time a BIG4 company, let alone HYBE copying a lesser known group. They did this with MAMAMOO multiple times. YG as well.

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What is this argument even? Is this a joke? Since when relevancy matters? It's okay to copy nugu groups because not many people know them? Like, WTF????

where did I say it was okay to "copy" anyone not sure if you're being obtuse on purpose or-

the less a group is known, the less likely it is for a group/label to want to recreate their concept when they can choose to inspire themselves in highly popular and trendy ones instead like katseye etc. especially a company like hybe whose higher ups have dollar signs for eyes. this is basic logic.

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the less a group is known, the less likely it is for a group/label to want to recreate their concept when they can choose to inspire themselves in highly popular and trendy ones instead like katseye etc. especially a company like hybe whose higher ups have dollar signs for eyes. this is basic logic.

In the music industry in particular, major labels and popular artists literally feed off and draw heavily on the underground scene. And that's not something unique to K-pop or new. Even the Beatles did it.

Lesser-known artists must innovate or take more creative risks if they want to make a name for themselves and exist (with the goal of making a living from their art, of course); this is why they are generally a source of inspiration for larger companies or artists.

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In the music industry in particular, major labels and popular artists literally feed off and draw heavily on the underground scene. And that's not something unique to K-pop or new. Even the Beatles did it.

Lesser-known artists must innovate or take more creative risks if they want to make a name for themselves and exist (with the goal of making a living from their art, of course); this is why they are generally a source of inspiration for larger companies or artists.

well that is true in the general industry

but lbr hybe is not a company known to take risks in terms of sound. you can almost always pinpoint exactly what inspired a specific concept/genre for lsfm, txt, enhypen comebacks and it's never an underground or niche artist. it's always top40 stuff.

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In the music industry in particular, major labels and popular artists literally feed off and draw heavily on the underground scene. And that's not something unique to K-pop or new. Even the Beatles did it.

Lesser-known artists must innovate or take more creative risks if they want to make a name for themselves and exist (with the goal of making a living from their art, of course); this is why they are generally a source of inspiration for larger companies or artists.

This is a great point. Many genres start on the underground scene and then becomes popular once big labels back them.

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Nah I understand.

Gaining experience is great and i wish my faves would do that too (they cant until bang shit hyuk stops shoving his name and 10 other writers down our throats every release) but all i wish is that they get to experience real rap and not just putting random rhyming words plus a blatant misuse of aave and calling it rap. thats top 5 ways to stay nugu

Sunhye has auditioned for Show Me The Money 12, so hopefully she gets accepted. That’ll be a great place for her to grow as a rapper and the leader

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where did I say it was okay to "copy" anyone not sure if you're being obtuse on purpose or-

the less a group is known, the less likely it is for a group/label to want to recreate their concept when they can choose to inspire themselves in highly popular and trendy ones instead like katseye etc. especially a company like hybe whose higher ups have dollar signs for eyes. this is basic logic.

You literally said, they're not relevant as if they never had this concept and that's the reason HYBE wouldn't copy them.

And you say it again. Absolute BULLSHIT argument. I'm sorry, but I don't know how to say this nicely.

You know what's your problem with your take? If someone copies a well-known artist, they will get more hate for it, and more people will recognize it, but if they steal from a "nugu" no one will give a damn, and people will act like as if that one popular group or soloist invented the wheel.

THIS is the reason mainstream copies lesser known artists.

This is the basic logic, not yours.

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well that is true in the general industry

but lbr hybe is not a company known to take risks in terms of sound. you can almost always pinpoint exactly what inspired a specific concept/genre for lsfm, txt, enhypen comebacks and it's never an underground or niche artist. it's always top40 stuff.

Another bad take.

This isn't just about copying the music or a sound, HYBE copied Young Posse's CONCEPT, not the music!

Also, let's remember something else. The minute Solar produced "COLORS", Le Sserafim released their songs that was another copy and paste of Solar's song and MV as well.

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Not y'all acting like Spaghetti is the only song LSF has ever released.

I found love (I love you)

I found love (Bang, ayy, ooh)

[Chorus: Sunhye, Jiana, Yeonjung]

I found love

Post it and likey, post it and likey

About love (Love, love, love)

I found love (Come on)

Post it and likey, post it and likey

About love (Love, love, love)

--

[Intro]

Daddy, don't leave me

[Instrumental Break]

[Chorus]

Daddy, don't leave me

[Instrumental Break]

[Outro]

Daddy, leave me

This is an entire song btw. But yes, Spaghetti? HORRIBLE. Truly.

--

[Verse 1: Sunhye]

Jingle bells are so annoying, they just jingle and jingle

I think I’m developing neurosis

Don’t come closer

Right now, I’m cold and slipping here

On Christmas, you’re drinking some cheap booze

Even with a girlfriend, you’re still miserable

Why are you toasting and wanting a wholе cake on someone еlse’s birthday, boyfriend?

See? Even God is finally angry

When you asked if I cried, I said no

Don’t be scared, I won’t hurt you

I’m only raising my thumb, index, and middle finger

How is it? Doesn’t it look cool?

Smile—kimchi! Click, bang bang

[Chorus: All, Jieun, Doeun]

Santa Claus, you left me no goods (Left me no, left me no goods)

Santa Claus, you left me no goods (I'm in a, I'm in a mood)

Santa Claus, you left me no goods (Left me no, left me no goods)

Santa Claus, you left me no goods (Doeun never cry)

--

[Intro]

Scribbled out

[Instrumental Break]

[Chorus]

Out, out

Scribbled out (Out)

Out, out

Scribbled out

[Outro]

How can I get rid of?

He was cheating on you

Out, out

That's ALSO an entire song btw. But Spaghetti? HORRIFYING. A clapback to the haters that isn't supposed to be taken seriously???? Dare I say, the song has its own special spot in hell.

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First of all, it's not their fault if you don't understand the meaning behind this basic lyrics. The first one is about social media obsession and hate, the second one is about daddy issues.

Now, stop talking nonsense, and show me ONE meaningful Le Sserafim song.

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guys. (sigh)

hybe is greedy.

they take inspiration from better known artists in an attempt to recreate the success of that artist. so no, hybe is not tryna copy Young Posse no matter how much David convinces himself of that. matter of fact, the last ive heard of yp going viral is doeun saying zigga in place of the n word..which is not exactly a right way to go viral.

You still don't understand that I'm talking about the CONCEPT, not the trash music LSF released! HYBE don't take "inspiration" they STEAL from other artists! Simple as that. Don't try to sugarcoat it. And no, HYBE is not the only company who do this, btw.

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You literally said, they're not relevant as if they never had this concept and that's the reason HYBE wouldn't copy them.

And you say it again. Absolute BULLSHIT argument. I'm sorry, but I don't know how to say this nicely.

No, I said they are not that relevant and that's why it's unlikely that they were the inspiration for the comeback. Not that not being relevant gives HYBE and other big companies a free pass to copy them.

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You know what's your problem with your take? If someone copies a well-known artist, they will get more hate for it, and more people will recognize it, but if they steal from a "nugu" no one will give a damn, and people will act like as if that one popular group or soloist invented the wheel.

Well duh obviously. Where in my "take" did I say that this is okay? lol

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Also, let's remember something else. The minute Solar produced "COLORS", Le Sserafim released their songs that was another copy and paste of Solar's song and MV as well.

no David. Le sserafim's Crazy is obviously a charli xcx brat summer inspired cb. let's not.

I can also make a case that *checks notes* babymonster is blatantly copying nct dream because their last 2 cb title tracks hot sauce and we go up have exactly the same name as previous NCT dream titles. this is david logic.

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No, I said they are not that relevant and that's why it's unlikely that they were the inspiration for the comeback. Not that not being relevant gives HYBE and other big companies a free pass to copy them.

Well duh obviously. Where in my "take" did I say that this is okay? lol

no David. Le sserafim's Crazy is obviously a charli xcx brat summer inspired cb. let's not.

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Again, it's highly likely they will copy a nugu because people won't care about that. I'm not gonna say this one more time. I know how this works, I've seen it many times, and not just me, a lot of people did. They just move on to another hot topic.

No mate, CRAZY is not a Charli XCX copy, the sound might be similar, but the concept is definitely Solar's COLORS.

This is why I hate arguing with Kpop stans who only follow mainstream want to ignore facts. I can't even count how many times the BIG4 copied MAMAMOO alone, and I could mention other small agency groups.

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I can also make a case that *checks notes* babymonster is blatantly copying nct dream because their last 2 cb title tracks hot sauce and we go up have exactly the same name as previous NCT dream titles. this is david logic.

That's not my logic.

"Hot Sauce" has nothing to do with NCT, it was a copy of that old Hip Hop song, I don't remember the group now, and I'm too lazy to Google it. Even the MV was similar.

It's not about the title, there are 100s of songs with the same title.

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yes. daddy issues. VERY VERY meaningful.

yes. no doubt.

what exaxctly is this "concept" you're yapping about?

a song about food? i can name several other kpop songs about food.

u mean the fact that they both shrink to tiny sizes in the mv? well..got7 has done that in one of their mvs...ig YP is copying got7?? what is this bum ass logic of yours

like..im really not understanding this point about a stolen concept.

WHAT concept, lil bro? a voguing concept? chung ha has done it several times. your point?

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Watch the MVs and MAYBE you're gonna understand.

MAMAMOO representing the Queer community for ages, way before any other mainstream group or Idol did it. And I'm talking about actual representation, not just some random couple of second long scenes. MAMAMOO doing this since 2016 btw. I don't remember Sserafim or even Chungha being there that time. She debuted a year later.

Lastly: You still didn't show me any meaningful Le Sserafim lyrics. Don't shade Idols who can write their own lyrics and do freestyle on spot, if you can't defend your own faves.

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It's really sad that representing a community that is constantly discriminated against and deprived of their rights has to be turned into a competition of who did it first.

You're pathetic.

That wasn't my point. Representation is good, but the funny thing is, HYBE never did that before the said artists did it. Saying MAMAMOO opened the doors isn't a competition it's just a fact.

And you know what? FEARNOTS attacked Solar on SNS talking shit about her song and saying she's Queer baiting and copying LSF. So let's not use the victim card. Mainstream fans ALWAYS do this.

This is why I mentioned this, not because it's about Queers. This is what popularity stans do. Companies copying lesser known artists or do Queer baiting and their fans think they come up with the whole idea and they're the only ones who do it.

This is my point. I didn't want to turn this into a competition.