Congratulations, Dives. You did it. They did it. IVE is back

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You are the one saying that Ive international career ended, not me. Ive have nothing to prove anymore. They succeeded in every area already and it's laughable that k-pop stans think any minimum decrease can lead to their whole trajectory being downplayed when Ive is ahead of other ggs in multiple categories with an increasing gap. Goes back to what I was saying about every negative opinion about them here being wishful thinking.

going to 2m streams to 600k is not minimun, its a generous decrease and people point out gg weakness all the time, ive one is international charting, same as gidle (and that include japan bc ive isnt charting in apple music that is powered by japan)

they have already tour, like gidle and even then that doesnt seem to help them

they have the most paks like gidle and they fall in other categories like as them, they are parallel

Eleven remains superior though

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going to 2m streams to 600k is not minimun, its a generous decrease and people point out gg weakness all the time, ive one is international charting, same as gidle (and that include japan bc ive isnt charting in apple music that is powered by japan)

they have already tour, like gidle and even then that doesnt seem to help them

they have the most paks like gidle and they fall in other categories like as them, they are parallel

Imo it’s the 2mil that was fake

(This is not a dig at IVE)

But rather how Spotify streaming is extremely inflated.

IMO this doesn’t prove who is bigger intentionally at all. It just proves who can rig the system better.

IVE are able to tour really well internationally THIS is the proof that they are good internationally.

If their tour drops off along with streams then we can say they declined. But right now they are at an all time high.

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going to 2m streams to 600k is not minimun, its a generous decrease and people point out gg weakness all the time, ive one is international charting, same as gidle (and that include japan bc ive isnt charting in apple music that is powered by japan)

they have already tour, like gidle and even then that doesnt seem to help them

they have the most paks like gidle and they fall in other categories like as them, they are parallel

Not just most PAKs lol they literally are the best selling GG in hanteo, with the best selling GG releases in 2024 so clear domination in physicals. Their first world tour is only behind twice and BP as biggest for GGs, makes them 1 for 4th gen in touring too. That's already 3 metrics other GGs will have to surpass Ive before y'all invent something else to downplay them. And don't come with the "but other GGs haven't toured yet " bullshit. Just the fact that Ive already was able to do it less than 3 years of debut shows why they're ahead. But it's clear that you don't care about this if you can't use it to downplay them

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That's because she's from Germany

facts. she admit this

it was already destined to be

stay tuned!

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Imo it’s the 2mil that was fake

(This is not a dig at IVE)

But rather how Spotify streaming is extremely inflated.

IMO this doesn’t prove who is bigger intentionally at all. It just proves who can rig the system better.

IVE are able to tour really well internationally THIS is the proof that they are good internationally.

If their tour drops off along with streams then we can say they declined. But right now they are at an all time high.

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Idk the hype for eleven - love dive was huge, it baddie that kill Ive international charting, the same happen with gidle and that song that come after queencard whose name I don't even remember

Like I said they tour already and it did nothing, same for aespa (USA wise). Touring is the most effective way a group can re-gain/gain more footing and if that do nothing, nothing else will

Starship will have too book bigger places for them, but a thing I notice is 4th ggs doesn't seem to do that (at least the one sthat tour), its companies don't believe they can book bigger places. And we'll all I've will go lately is tour now that they are debuting a new gg

Sales update 1.1M

IVE "now the 4th gen group with most hits #1 in Melon daily chart"

ive is the best

guess who's back, back again

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their songs last year were better

IVE never left

I would never considere anything charted at #2 a flop. They were just having bad timing crashing into Seventeen & Zico/Jennie. Also bad rollout by Starship.

HEYA & Accendio would perform much better, on par with Rebel Heart & attitude had the rollout been similar

Like Catzi said in previous page, their tour schedule did affected their comeback timing. They couldnt have 2 rounds of comeback promotions like they are having now for prerelease + album release