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"GFRIEND didn't disband but our contract was terminated by THAT agency." -GFRIEND LEADER "KIM SOWON"
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I see someone is bringing back the old 'they were unprofitable' thing despite the MHJ Hybe beef debunking it.
Just to run with your analogy btw - if the company raises your KPI's, revenue, profit aims to lets say, the best performer at the head office of their owner despite you being in an off shoot of an offshoot with far less resources and investment, your department being the main reason the company was acquired and the profit you generated is being eaten by other massive investments the company is making so they blame you for the shortfall and let you go, are your still going to take the blame for not being profitable enough?
Thank you the reason why Source was in the negative is clearly because they were preparing for a GG debut. Gfriend wasn’t selling million but they were selling over 100k albums per year which was respectable before 2020.
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I think it's very unfair to say if GFriend really wanted to stay together, they would have revamped.
Girl groups do not have the same level of fandoms that boy groups have to be able to pull it off, hence why the only girl group to ever really try was Brave girls 2 years after. They did not write much of their songs to have rights over them etc.
Not only that but Viviz was never an open invitation to every GFriend member that the other 3 passed on. It was Umji and Sinb originally and they asked Eunha to join.
Moving on doesn't mean they wanted to disband. From what Sinb said at their concert, their confidence in their ability to succeed was always low
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We all knew it
But even if i hate HYBE, she doesn't need to act like if the group was disbanded it's only because of HYBE
because half of the group still find a way to stay together because they wanted to continue GFRIEND as a group
If the other girl didn't want to disband they could also follow the 3 other members and form VIVIZ
Display MoreFirst of all i'm not judging her, i'm just saying that she implied that if Gfriend disbanded it's only because of the company
So i'm adding more nuance to her sentence by saying that Gfriend could have their contract terminated by Source Music
But it doesn't mean Gfriend had to disband, they could have all follow the VIVIZ members and continue as 6 members
I disagree people would have sign them because as a group they were a big name in korea
They could have continue to promote as a group and continue their solo career on the side it's what everybody does
Highlight left cube and they continue to promote as a group and do solo career
I just think that if they have disbanded it's in party of HYBE but also cuz of the members too
It's obvious that some of of them wanted to go solo and didn't want to be gfriend anymore or promote as a group
If they were offer to join viviz or not ??
I mean met's not be naive
Viviz members talk about how they talk with each other when their contract was terminated, and sharing their vows of continue as a group
Do you really think only the three of them had this discussion ? They probably had the discussion with all the members asking them if they were interested and then they could search for an agency that would accept them
But the 3 other members probbaly told them that they wanted to pursue a solo career and give up on their idols career
That's why only the 3 members of VIVIZ looked for an agency that would accept to sign them
Historically, SHINHWA from SM split becos a member wasn't offered to re-sign, n the leader decided he would risk everything to keep 'em as 6(afaicr).
SNSD did not all re-sign with SM in 2017, n it took 5 yrs for release as full group in 2022. Now only half left in SM(No one knows if there'll be another OT8 release in future-2027?).
Tats even supposing all 6 members of Gfriend could hv found arrangement/agreement to stay as 6-it's kinda pointless if it takes 5 yrs till next release, ie 2027(?)
Apink, mamamoo, exid, BEG, BP as other examples where mmembers kinda continued as gg(just read only eunji remains signed rn tho, so not sure if apink officially disbanded/hiatus/inactive. Also not sure abt exid.) after solo activities out of original company(contrast with SouMu after HYBE acquisition, we still don't hv a official statement if HYBE offered any contract to remain as 6Friend or not)
At least this way(after HYBE non renewal), VIVIZ is active as 3 member gg, Yuju n Yerin hv solos, n Sowon can study n train as actress(as SONE n buddy, I can agree tat gfriend =/= SNSD level when renewal/attrition/last comeback(not counting 15 yr anniversary cb) just my opinion/0.02$[not even US, S.E.A unit of currency in my country 😀.
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their solo careers flopped and now they jelly
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As a buddy since 2016, this was pretty obvious. People talking about how they could have stayed together and how they formed Viviz later really have no idea about what they're talking about.
Some people already explained several points I'm not going to repeat them. It's obvious a situation like this it's not that easy, and apart from things such as what agencies each person go, it would also be completely understandable that some of them became tired of the idol life after being disbanded and, the more we know, the more it seems they were treated very poorly their last moments as idols under Gfriend's name which could be quite tiring and frustrating for them.
What hurts me the most is how they were always mentioning how they wanted Gfriend to last long, I'm not talking just about their early days but until their last year of career they were always saying it, if you were in the fandom back then you know most of us took Apink's example as a role model and we thought they could be like them.
Of course you never know, many things can change, they indeed did, but it's undeniable where the turning point of their career was, and I'm not talking about success. They were not that popular among the public anymore but as already mentioned too, they had a pretty strong fandom and were entablished... Companies have the last word sadly.
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Not only that but Viviz was never an open invitation to every GFriend member that the other 3 passed on. It was Umji and Sinb originally and they asked Eunha to join.
Moving on doesn't mean they wanted to disband. From what Sinb said at their concert, their confidence in their ability to succeed was always low
That makes the original group look less good. If they didn't even invite all to join, then what are these complaints?
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I'll never understand why people feel compelled to do mental gymnastics and bend over backwards to find reasons to defend the shady practices of a giant conglomerate instead of sympathizing with the relatively powerless artists they treat like pawns on a chessboard.
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That makes the original group look less good. If they didn't even invite all to join, then what are these complaints?
Again, not staying together after doesn't mean they wanted to break up.
2nd, the others had signed to other agencies before Viviz was starting to take form. They were the last ones to sign to an agency
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YG is unexpectedly kind to all their past artists. Other companies should take note
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THAT agency intoxicated the whole industry
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YG is unexpectedly kind to all their past artists. Other companies should take note
Kind? Are you kidding? They only give IKON their trademark because they weren't half as big as Bigbang, 2NE1 or Blackpink.
G-Dragon only got his trademark back after 20 YEARS, when he's basically the guy who built YG and didn't let YG becoming a fast food restaurant.🤣
I'm pretty sure, 2NE1 still owned by YG as well. The same thing will happen to BP, he's never gonna give the name back to them. YGE is anything but kind, they're easily one of the worst Kpop company.
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The "funny" thing is, that so many Kpop fans think everything is simple. If an Idol group want to do something, they can do it. Someone else already said, it's MUCH harder for girl groups, and not just that. Even tho they basically kicked GFriend out after they built their company and gave to Le Sserafim, the girls didn't have many choices, they don't own GFriend.
It's not about who's flop and who's not. It's time to move on from this BS that you guys call every Idol a flop, just because they don't have 100M views and don't chart in TOP100.
You live in a freakin' fantasy world, where people can do anything if they want, but real life is nothing like that. Especially in the Music Industry. And especially for WOMEN!
Also, I don't think anyone is close with them to know every detail. The only thing you know is what you read online, and most of those clickbait articles are false anyway or only contains half-truths.
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First of all i'm not judging her, i'm just saying that she implied that if Gfriend disbanded it's only because of the company
So i'm adding more nuance to her sentence by saying that Gfriend could have their contract terminated by Source Music
But it doesn't mean Gfriend had to disband, they could have all follow the VIVIZ members and continue as 6 members
I disagree people would have sign them because as a group they were a big name in korea
They could have continue to promote as a group and continue their solo career on the side it's what everybody does
Highlight left cube and they continue to promote as a group and do solo career
I just think that if they have disbanded it's in party of HYBE but also cuz of the members too
It's obvious that some of of them wanted to go solo and didn't want to be gfriend anymore or promote as a group
If they were offer to join viviz or not ??
I mean met's not be naive
Viviz members talk about how they talk with each other when their contract was terminated, and sharing their vows of continue as a group
Do you really think only the three of them had this discussion ? They probably had the discussion with all the members asking them if they were interested and then they could search for an agency that would accept them
But the 3 other members probbaly told them that they wanted to pursue a solo career and give up on their idols career
That's why only the 3 members of VIVIZ looked for an agency that would accept to sign them
Didn't Highlight make their own label after leaving cube?
Still there's a lot what ifs and maybes and who knows for me to make any assumptions about what they chose to do.
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