We fans demand too much of idols singing live when the circumstances are impossible to do it

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A bad example as SNSD had a Dance Version and a Vocal Version of thier songs, it's SME's policy since their first generation of Idols.

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They do their Dance Version of ITNW for their 2nd song but their first song is their Live Verson where their vocals aren't up to scratch.

BTW, SME were one of the few Kpop Companies to have dual versions, the rest just lipsynched

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No not a bad example, they're the best example.

This is SNSD debut stage.

Live. Stable. Tough routine. All as day 1 rookies.

You posted a dance remix version of their song used for special perfs, it's not the official version. They didn't leave special version's of almost all the songs outside things like concerts or gayos. So there's no point pretending that's how sm how does things normally in order to make it out as if SNSD are lip syncers.

There's a reason why the greatest tenor in history, Pavarotti, wasnt prancing around doing the running man or Roger Rabbit when he belted out his timeless classic Nessun Dorma.

Everyone should try singing a rando Kpop song while standing still and then while dancing, it is physically impossible to sing with support with your core moving all over the place. You end up shout singing which sucks to listen to even when its done reasonably in tune. This is why folks who care about live vocals when it comes to Kpop are in the wrong genre, they should be watching Broadway or Opera.

Look at mah girl Morissette singing while dancing live....

Versus what she sounds like while standing and focusing

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There's a reason why the greatest tenor in history, Pavarotti, wasnt prancing around doing the running man or Roger Rabbit when he belted out his timeless classic Nessun Dorma.

Everyone should try singing a rando Kpop song while standing still and then while dancing, it is physically impossible to sing with support with your core moving all over the place. You end up shout singing which sucks to listen to even when its done reasonably in tune. This is why folks who care about live vocals when it comes to Kpop are in the wrong genre, they should be watching Broadway or Opera.

Look at mah girl Morissette singing while dancing live....

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Versus what she sounds like while standing and focusing

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for once, i agree with you.

Real vocal stans do not listen to kpop or even pop music. If any do, it would be like a foodie eating at McDonalds every day of the week.

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No not a bad example, they're the best example.

This is SNSD debut stage.

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Live. Stable. Tough routine. All as day 1 rookies.

You posted a dance remix version of their song used for special perfs, it's not the official version. They didn't leave special version's of almost all the songs outside things like concerts or gayos. So there's no point pretending that's how sm how does things normally in order to make it out as if SNSD are lip syncers.

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Dance remix means they don't sing live which is my point that SME has 2 versions also the version you posted is probably not live based on their actual live vocals as Yuri is far too stable compared to how crap she is later

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But we didn't ask them to start doing ridiculous choreography.

But someone did ask. That's why they are doing it.

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Dance remix means they don't sing live which is my point that SME has 2 versions also the version you posted is probably not live based on their actual live vocals as Yuri is far too stable compared to how crap she is later

I don't think you understand what a remix is. It's not an official version for release, it's for special perfs for events and shit so it doesn't matter if it's live or not, it's for fun. They've done rock version of Gee for TV, a winter themed version of Party for TV and concerts, extended IGAB stage for gayos, soecial collabs with other artists like SM town and so on. Some live, some not live, most didn't gave a damn because they're for fun.

Yes the video I posted is a live and you can find more of ITNW and hundreds of their other songs live for yourself. But seeing as you think they sound too good already as rookies that you can't believe they're live that's a huge ass compliment to them. Glad you agree on my point that SNSD are an example of great singers with hard choreography.

depends on the song and the choreo and how hard it is etc etc

but we all know that kpop ain't known for it's live singing

they are idols not "singers"