Groups that have no positions are stupid

I agree 100%

You can almost always figure the positions out yourself. Positions also give reasoning for center time, line distribution, screen time, etc.

TREASURE is good at everything

Yeah, there will never truly be a group of all rounders, no matter what the company says

How about every position instead of no position?

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How about every position instead of no position?

I agree. I understand why stans like to pretend all members have the same positions, they hate the fact some idols were pick to be visuals or sub vocalists, but this is how kpop groups are chosen

Companies may not officially assign positions but generally is blatantly obvious everyone's position

Producers don't need to know positions to make a song...

It's not stupid, but I can agree about the part where you can tell who does what. If the only member who gets dance breaks and raps (if the song has one) is Yeonjun, he's the main dancer and main rapper by inference. Taehyun and HueningKai are the main and lead vocals, Soobin is leader, Beomgyu is visual and center.

All of them can dance at a high level, and Yeonjun is a capable vocalist on his own.

Meanwhile Soyeon : "I'm Leader, Rapper, Vocalist, Dancer, songwriter, record producer"

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I lowkey agree. If anything it causes more arguments among the fandom, whether or not "x member" is a certain position or not.

I don't think positions are really worth arguing over anyway. Who cares whether an idol is "lead vocalist" or "main dancer" or whatnot?

If what they do works for the song, I'm all for it lol

Agree about Loona, Orbits are genuinely convinced that all of them are main vocal level. Like Vivi?? Gowon???

Come on, positions are so stupid. All they do is create confusion and drama like "___ is a main vocalist yet they have more rap parts than __ who is a main rapper", like...

There are groups, believe it or not, who are full of members who can perfectly take the role of a main dancer, main vocalist and main rapper all at once. Also, groups where members keep switching from having rap parts to vocal to more dance focused parts. Such groups don't need positions as they'll keep on changing with every comeback

The confusion is understandable, but I feel like the talent should just speak for itself. The best dancer shouldn’t need the main dancer title if it’s evident otherwise. You don’t need a certain title to fill a certain role in the group. But at the same time I understand the thought process behind set positions.

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It's not stupid, but I can agree about the part where you can tell who does what. If the only member who gets dance breaks and raps (if the song has one) is Yeonjun, he's the main dancer and main rapper by inference. Taehyun and HueningKai are the main and lead vocals, Soobin is leader, Beomgyu is visual and center.

All of them can dance at a high level, and Yeonjun is a capable vocalist on his own.

This ^