As the title says, can 4th generation girl groups can do world tours like blackpink or twice and pull large audience to their concerts and make big bucks from it in their further years. Compared to blackpink and twice i feel 4th gen girl groups lack core fandom that only stan one group. What are your thoughts on it.
Can 4th generation girl groups match Blackpink and Twice's touring performance in the future?
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The best of 4th gen is just now getting started and some groups lost their early touring years to Covid.
It'll take a few years for some groups to match those numbers just like it took BP and Twice 7/8 years to accomplish that in the first place
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I truly think kpop is in a bubble right now, it's popular and trendy worldwide.
But all bubbles burst and all trends fade.
The question to be asked is will the bubble burst on kpop BEFORE the 4th gen groups get a chance to become as established and big as BlinkTwice to be able to have such impactful world tours?
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This is what I want to know too.
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50/50
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Itzy, Idle and early debut groups like this? No not a chance. It's far too late. They aren't even able to match the touring numbers Twice and BP were doing in 2019. They are 5 year old groups, they aren't rookies.
Same for IVE. I find it unlikely they will match Twice or BPs touring numbers from 2019, never mind doing anything close to what we're seeing now. They are arguably at their peak right now as is Kpop. Their sale rate of their current tour isn't showing any evidence that they can.
NewJeans? We will see. I honestly don't think so. They might book a tour as big as the numbers TW/BP dropped in 2019, but 1+m people with several sold out stadiums? No, most likely never going to happen.
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The big youtube pros are you see and know their faces when you listen to their songs.
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Yeah.
It takes time, but Kpop just keeps growing, despite people having thought for generations that Kpop was at its peak.
In 2nd gen, people already thought it wouldn't get more popular than that and Kpop was at its peak. Looking back, Kpop's popularity was small compared to what it is now.
Have heard it so many times now that Kpop will not grow further and every time Kpop groups confound this and reach yet new audiences.
Kpop is not a genre, but popular music from a certain country. Pop music from the US/Uk has been popular for many decades. Genres have gone in and out of fashion, but that is a different thing.
Thanks to the internet, other countries now have a chance as well, and like those two countries, Korea has a music industry with a lot of experience now.
Instead of it being a 'fad' only Kpop fans listen to, Kpop seems on the verge to become a more normal thing that anyone can listent to. This is much helped by TikTok. See the popularity of Cupid, 3D, Money beyond Kpop fan circles as early indications of this. I can definitely see this happening for New Jeans especially, but I'm not counting out the other new groups yet. In fact, it's already starting.
The older 4th gen groups had a big set back in Covid, but I don't see why the newer groups wouldn't be able to grow fandoms just like the 3rd gen groups did and be able to do big tours in a few years. Kpop audiences are even bigger than what they were. Potential Kpop audiences are yet bigger still. There used to be a time people had to actively look for Kpop. Now they can watch some funny video with a nice song being used for it and "hey, who is this group? Oh they're nice". People used to think SNSD was the pinnacle of a girl group's achievement and we all know what happened after that.
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Not today but eventually one group will
We all know the group
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Some 4th gen are popular in some regions. For exemple Itzy in PH, IVE Taiwan and Gidle in China but most of the time they’re lacking in most countries compared to BP/Twice. BP two years into their career were selling out arenas. While twice were kinda “local” but they managed to do well in the US while the 4th veteran are still booking arenas
SS was kinda bold to book IVE arenas but they aren’t doing so bad so they might grow. But stadiums all over the world ? Kinda impossible.
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Not today but eventually one group will
We all know the group
If you guys didn’t know he’s talking about IVE btw.
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If you guys didn’t know he’s talking about IVE btw.
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I don't see how that would even be a factor, unless you're too broke to attend more than one concert.
BP two years into their career were selling out arenas. While twice were kinda “local” but they managed to do well in the US while the 4th veteran are still booking arenas
They were "local" only if you're counting every country a member hails from. Twice were doing Tokyo Dome when BP were doing arenas.
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Nope, kpop is heading into a deflationary cycle
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