New Jeans officially the 2nd biggest GG globally??

Globally? Have they surpassed Twice yet?

Newjeans definitely gunning for Twice globally. But boy oh boy, it's hard to argue with Twice's concert attendance. 50k at SOFI Stadium is insane, would NJ even have 5k for a concert there?

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Yep,In all aspects except touring ✔️

How can a group that's only been out a year have a bigger fan base than Twice aka the nation's girl group of the last 7 years?

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NJ is currently seriously challenging BP US achievements with get up

I think they will be able to hold large scale arena concerts in US as soon as summer 2024

BP & twice will not be the last GGs to hold stadium concerts

Yep. If NJ starts placing songs in the top 40 of the Hot 100, BP is in trouble. And with this whole Teddy partnering with MNET for ILAND2 in 2024, who knows when BP will get their next full group comeback even if they all re-sign. 2025 seems to be the earliest. Teddy used up his 2023 energy with Somi's album, next year is ILAND2.

NJ is in that conversation for sure. Let’s see what the near future brings

It's a little silly to compare touring numbers between a veteran girl group of 7 years to a one year old rookie. newjeans certainly doesn't have that kind of fandom power yet. but people are tuning into their music.

I anticipate that they'll definitely be giving the top groups a run for their money once the members get older and there's less of a stigma surrounding stanning them.

also, they haven't begun western promotions yet but they're poised to do well there too: all the members speak english, a couple of them fluently, and their recent songs are like 60% in english anyway.

in conclusion: probably, but let them marinate a bit

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Newjeans definitely gunning for Twice globally. But boy oh boy, it's hard to argue with Twice's concert attendance. 50k at SOFI Stadium is insane, would NJ even have 5k for a concert there?

computer dont buy ticket sales, ask aespa

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It's a little silly to compare touring numbers between a veteran girl group of 7 years to a one year old rookie. newjeans certainly doesn't have that kind of fandom power yet. but people are tuning into their music.

I anticipate that they'll definitely be giving the top groups a run for their money once the members get older and there's less of a stigma surrounding stanning them.

also, they haven't begun western promotions yet but they're poised to do well there too: all the members speak english, a couple of them fluently, and their recent songs are like 60% in english anyway.

in conclusion: probably, but let them marinate a bit

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this, people are being obtuse about metrics for reasons. But if you graph every relevant GG’s growth out, then no curve is as steep as the one NJ is on

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It's a little silly to compare touring numbers between a veteran girl group of 7 years to a one year old rookie. newjeans certainly doesn't have that kind of fandom power yet. but people are tuning into their music.

I anticipate that they'll definitely be giving the top groups a run for their money once the members get older and there's less of a stigma surrounding stanning them.

also, they haven't begun western promotions yet but they're poised to do well there too: all the members speak english, a couple of them fluently, and their recent songs are like 60% in english anyway.

in conclusion: probably, but let them marinate a bit

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if u sell near 2m albums u should have too

where do those come from then? bc bp was selling domes at their second year, was sellin arenas of 20k for 3 days in thailand in 2019 that was with like 300k sales

so those numbers gotta come from somewhere

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this, people are being obtuse about metrics for reasons. But if you graph every relevant GG’s growth out, then no curve is as steep as the one NJ is on

they may be off to the best start in kpop ever

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Have u seen melon charts lately? 😂

NJ currently has more selling power than twice

They're outcharting every act not named Ive right now.

And their international numbers are insane. Now that you pointed out the Spotify stats for Bornpink/TA vs the new NJ comeback...you could argue that New Jeans is actually challenging BP itself globally and the US.

Ive's popularity in Korea is literally the only thing standing between NJ and total world domination , the line in the sand will be drawn there.

@/mods and @/admins

what are the chances I can pay to get hardy to change his username from hardcoreblink to hardcorebunnies

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if u sell near 2m albums u should have too

where do those come from then? bc bp was selling domes at their second year, was sellin arenas of 20k for 3 days in thailand in 2019 that was with like 300k sales

so those numbers gotta come from somewhere

kpop album sales are inflated af in these days

I remember when domestically popular groups could only sell 100,000

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kpop album sales are inflated af in these days

I remember when domestically popular groups could only sell 100,000

a gg selling 2m albums should not struggle to sell a small arena in the usa or europe

that should just not happen, if bp and twice could do it 4 years ago, these ggs should have no issue

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a gg selling 2m albums should not struggle to sell a small arena in the usa or europe

that should just not happen, if bp and twice could do it 4 years ago, these ggs should have no issue

we won't know until they do it. I think once they actually start promoting overseas, they'll hit it big

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a gg selling 2m albums should not struggle to sell a small arena in the usa or europe

that should just not happen, if bp and twice could do it 4 years ago, these ggs should have no issue

yeah albums sales is a good metric to determine if a group has a big/decent fandom those are the ones that go to their concerts

How are they doing in China, Japan and YouTube

I feel like it’s too soon to call the race for 4th Gen unless someone can lead in all/most of these platforms which blackpink did.

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we won't know until they do it. I think once they actually start promoting overseas, they'll hit it big

but aespa its trying and it doing bad, thats what I bring them up

itzy, done death deal

and what its overseas pormo even? bc befre bp tour in 2019 they didnt do much "Overseas", neither twice except japan

aespa sell out tokyo dome but aside from that and compared to twice and bp (the only ggs with fandom power to sell dome at their 3r year) they arent doing well

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How are they doing in China, Japan and YouTube

I feel like it’s too soon to call the race for 4th Gen unless someone can lead in all/most of these platforms which blackpink did.

YouTube music, killing it

Japan, killing it

China, don’t think so

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I don't stan NJ lol

It's just pointing out the obvious + yeah they got good music

hey I don't judge my friend

you can stan who you want (or not) lol

it begs the question mate of what will it take to get hardy to stan NJ?

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YouTube music, killing it

Japan, killing it

China, don’t think so

Not YouTube music. YouTube MV the free platform.

They also have to get the music video views. Paid streaming service is just not a thing for many people still so you gotta get those streams on YouTube MV as well for that so it’s an important metric.

Oh good to know they’re killing it in Japan. As they should.

I think Gidle have China currently. Not sure how they do in Japan tho. I just saw their sales in China for their album. No other GG than them from 4th gen was listed there this year so I assume they’re #1 there.

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YouTube music, killing it

Japan, killing it

China, don’t think so

aespa is a wall in china, but I don't think newjeans is doing too shabby. ditto increased their popularity.

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How are they doing in China, Japan and YouTube

I feel like it’s too soon to call the race for 4th Gen unless someone can lead in all/most of these platforms which blackpink did.

Meh on China

Great in Japan Digitally, needs to wait a proper physical release to see their fandom size

Great in YT, literally the biggest 4th gen kpop act in the last 12 months with over 2 billion streams, ahead of Stray Kids even. Bellow Twice though (by ~200 million) and far far bellow BTS and BP (6 and 7 billion streams respectively)

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How are they doing in China, Japan and YouTube

I feel like it’s too soon to call the race for 4th Gen unless someone can lead in all/most of these platforms which blackpink did.

hybe is ass in views so they should not be counted imo

like every single bts solo but jk did bad there, every group do bad there

japan is where hybe ggs do well

and china..well lmao

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For BP to start making awful music like twice 2016-2018 bsides level bad lol

If BP disbands I won't be able to Stan NJ either since I'll just drift away from K-pop

now now don't need to start denegrating other groups

I like twice bsides they have a lot of great bsides!!!

hmmm...hardy's entire AKP future is dependent on BP's contract renewal

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aespa is a wall in china, but I don't think newjeans is doing too shabby. ditto increased their popularity.

Are they really? I only saw Gidle in QQ music not aespa, how much did their last album sell?

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Twice music got better but those early years were...rough buddy 💀

K-pop in general but BP is not going anywhere either so 😌

hmm...one person's trash is another's treasure

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START?

in this thread...I can't remember if it was this one or the other one but someone actually praised hardy for not attacking NJ notwithstanding their success...

twice on the hand is apparently fair game to ahrdy lol