they gotta stop making the idols that can't sing into rappers

And what about idols who can't sing and are singers ?

Quote from KpopJop

they should be slowly transitioned into visuals or variety show fodder

Nah

If Taemin used that logic he would have never improved and became the artist he is today.

They can debut at mid level and improve.

But for those who has been around for years and no change, yeah.

Quote from KpopJop

they should be slowly transitioned into visuals or variety show fodder

That's what 90% kpop group are already

If they left rap to rappers we wouldn't have many kpop groups releasing songs with rap parts

And the rap is fun, sometimes even catchy

i think we should take the rap out of kpop in general

i can't stand rapping or rappers myself

The Venn diagram of people know anything about rap and those that listen to idol group are non intersecting circles lol.

Quote from ellenote

at this point in the sad crumbling kpop industry, there are no more rappers. just people pretending to be rappers, look at lisa, she ain't rapping, she ain't making no sense, then look at sad nct, those men can't rap, what do they know about some tupac?

atleast in nct there are vocalists

Quote from KpopJop

that just sounds like there's an under-served market out there, and you know kpop loves to serve a market

Maybe you can get some Drake Stan’s lol.

This is truth because I can't stand groups that don't have a good rap line. If you sing but not well, maybe you add character/(unique vocal color), but if you can't rap or sing please let me show you the exit.

Quote from Daisy_Queen

Line distribution stans have ruined kpop

honestly this

niziu actually did it the best, they added ayaka as a visual(mostly for korea), and could barely hold the beat when the show concluded, and was slowly increased singing lines over the first 2 years as she improved, now she get regulars singing lines

or XG with hinata getting like 0 real lines in the first 2 songs, until she was better with english

Kpop literally has the best rap in the business right now. I LOVE most rap verses of my fave songs, a lotta times they're the highlight of the song.

ETA: I'm talking about non over autotuned GG rap primarily, not whatever the BGs are doing with their obsession with that stuff.

examples of the best raps out there in recent times:

And of course most of Blackpink songs as well.