Has KPop's era of owner domination ended ? Almost

    What do you think about the end of owner-dominated era of KPop? 3

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    As late as 2020 , there were 4 owners in the top 5 power people ranking.


    BTS Is Top Voted as ‘Power People’ in The South Korean Entertainment Industry 2020
    South Korean Entertainment held a survey followed by 50 agencies. BTS is top voted as "People Power." Find out other most influential in South Korea.
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    1. BTS (68 points)
    2. Producer Lee Soo Man, SM Entertainment (58 points)
    3. Bang Shi Hyuk, the chair of Big Hit Entertainment (47 points)
    4. Producer Park Jin Young, JYP Entertainment (23 points)
    5. Lee Jieun, the owner of Edam Entertainment (18 points)

    Only BTS is a singer, although the other four used to be singers in the past.


    The stars of the 4 owners ranked here have changed a lot.


    Lee Sooman and Lee Jieun lost control of the companies they used to own. it is interesting that they both lost the control of their companies to Kakao Entertainment, which acquired Lee Jieun's company in 2022 and Lee Sooman's SM in 2023.


    Yang Hyunsuk, owner of YG and not in the list above since at that time he was 'officially' not involved with the management of YG (although everyone knew he was the one calling the shots), now only has BlackPink and although he still holds a lot of real estate his sway in the entertainment world has declined.


    JYP seems to be distancing himself away from the day to day management of JYPE, letting the exec run the company while he immerses himself in religious activities.


    So, the current power ranking would be, Hitman Bang, Min Heejin, the Kakao Entertainment exec running that division, and the other two I would have trouble naming. Maybe one BTS member, and BlackPink who stands in for Mr. Yang.


    Only one of them, Mr. Bang, would be an owner.


    The spectacular fall of Lee Sooman and Lee Jieun and the decline of JYP and Yang would mark the end of the owner-dominated era of KPop and the transformation of KPop into corporate products. The era of owner-dominated KPp is ending.

  • AllKill VIP

    Now let's get the corporations out and see what happens when they attempt a Western-style industry where the artists create themselves instead of having their music and images manufactured for them.

    yes you are correct in everything you said. I need a proper explanation as to why nobody wants to be the ceo of their own company anymore, like I have seen nothing of JYP's actual ceo, like what does he do? artists only refer to JYP, same with YG, and now SM is a mess, everything is starting to fall apart for KPOP's biggest companies, except HYBE who are getting there eventually with all their greed, and kakao is just steady in their endeavors. things are just weird.

    Quote from pwswan

    Now let's get the corporations out and see what happens when they attempt a Western-style industry where the artists create themselves instead of having their music and images manufactured for them.

    That will be hard since the idols only train at younger age and except rare cases like Jeon Soyeon where Cube basically nothing and just let her run the idol division, they will just follow orders without really deciding their own fates.

    Quote from ellenote

    yes you are correct in everything you said. I need a proper explanation as to why nobody wants to be the ceo of their own company anymore, like I have seen nothing of JYP's actual ceo, like what does he do? artists only refer to JYP, same with YG, and now SM is a mess, everything is starting to fall apart for KPOP's biggest companies, except HYBE who are getting there eventually with all their greed, and kakao is just steady in their endeavors. things are just weird.

    When owners were dominant they were stirring their idols according to what they saw fit, which not necessarily coincided with what the idols or their fans wanted.


    With the exit of the owners who had very strong personalities, except Bang, maybe the new system would be more palatable to the idols and their fans and what they want.

    Quote from pwswan

    Now let's get the corporations out and see what happens when they attempt a Western-style industry where the artists create themselves instead of having their music and images manufactured for them.


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    If anything, Western acts are MORE controlled not less. The power that UMG, Warner and Sony wield in controlling every facet of their acts' careers is enormous, these tiny pipsqueak Kpop labels cant hold a candle to the American Big 3 in size and power.


    Hell, the whole idea of a label and A&R is an AMERICAN invention, just as all of pop music is an American invention. If Kpop labels are renowned for manufacturing idols, that's cause they learned from the best - us.

    Quote from BlackpinkHouse

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    If anything, Western acts are MORE controlled not less. The power that UMG, Warner and Sony wield in controlling every facet of their acts' careers is enormous, these tiny pipsqueak Kpop labels cant hold a candle to the American Big 3 in size and power.


    Hell, the whole idea of a label and A&R is an AMERICAN invention, just as all of pop music is an American invention. If Kpop labels are renowned for manufacturing idols, that's cause they learned from the best - us.

    Yes, the US created the whole idea of highly manufactured pop acts, but only a minority of American artists are still manufactured to such a degree by their labels. Many are offered a significantly higher degree of artistic expression and autonomy than what is possible in Kpop, where everyone is strictly processed through the same system like identical products on a conveyer belt.

    Quote from xviper2k

    Yes, the US created the whole idea of highly manufactured pop acts, but only a minority of American artists are still manufactured to such a degree by their labels. Many are offered a significantly higher degree of artistic expression and autonomy than what is possible in Kpop, where everyone is strictly processed through the same system like identical products on a conveyer belt.


    Sorry bruh that is just the swill Hollywood feeds you. At least Kpop labels are honest about the trainee system (although not honest about the gory details obviously). Hollywood loves to spoonfeed gullible locals by claiming that their faves are "artists", "musicians", "songwriters", blah blah. They're just hoodwinking and hornswaggling you. Their careers, image, branding, music are ALL mapped out, planned, and developed under strict scrutiny of A&R and corporate suits. Music is a business, and the artists are commodities.


    Maybe once you reach the level of a Swift, an MJ, a Bey or Rihanna, you will be the one in control. But up to that point, you do what the label says or else you will be blacklisted. There's a reason why the Hot 100 is entirely populated by UMG, Sony and Warner labels.

    Quote from WhyKnock

    Only BTS is a singer, although the other four used to be singers in the past.

    JYPark released a Song in 2022 and has been doing Concerts :P


    He's the Chairman of JYPE that is heavily involved in the Company's projects in South Korea (Loud), China, Japan and America. E2K and L2K have been registered to JYPE so expect him to be involved in other Countries.


    His Career as a Singer is still current and will be until at least 2031 when he turns 60 as this is his goal.


    But you are correct, JYPark is not involved with the Management of any JYPE Artist, he is managed by Division 3, which is very evident as he's been the most active as an Artist since he was switched to them.


    He's also active as a Producer and Choreography but Got7 was really the last Idol Group he was the most active with.

    Quote from BlackpinkHouse

    Sorry bruh that is just the swill Hollywood feeds you. At least Kpop labels are honest about the trainee system (although not honest about the gory details obviously). Hollywood loves to spoonfeed gullible locals by claiming that their faves are "artists", "musicians", "songwriters", blah blah. They're just hoodwinking and hornswaggling you. Their careers, image, branding, music are ALL mapped out, planned, and developed under strict scrutiny of A&R and corporate suits. Music is a business, and the artists are commodities.


    Maybe once you reach the level of a Swift, an MJ, a Bey or Rihanna, you will be the one in control. But up to that point, you do what the label says or else you will be blacklisted. There's a reason why the Hot 100 is entirely populated by UMG, Sony and Warner labels.

    Nah, you're just being cynical. I think you've dived too deep into the dark depths of manufactured pop music and haven't come up for fresh air in too long, but it's still up there, waiting for you when you're ready.

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