Could one of these companies take SM place as the next Big 4?

Cube or Starship

The problem is that they have nugu-ish groups too.

Cube has had more successful groups than Starship but CLC and the other new group that I don’t remember the name. That made the company’s success rate go very low.

Starship only has IVE now, and monsta X to a certain extent. But Cosmic girls are just not stars [ironically] even with winning Q2. Sistar is a legend, but they’re in the powerful 2nd Gen and cannot really compete with their peers, SNSD and company.

Hard to say.

sure any of those companies can but it's not something that happens over a day or month or year

it probably takes years of continuous effort and work before a kpop company is considered big [x]

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Starship is a subsidiary of Kakao tho

RBW and CUBE are standalone companies

but overall my bet would be if Kakao finally decide to create that big ass entertainment agency then it will be Kakao Ent.

or if CJ does similar thing, because those companies are already hella big

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Yes, it's Kakao not Starshit that already is part of the Big 5 of Kpop.

Ive

IU

MX

The Boyz

StayC

Weeekly

Victon

Apink

That's already bigger than YGE and maybe bigger than JYP.

None of these companies have the relevancy or influence, not even "Kakao" as it's a tech company not a music company and no one is checking each of its subsidiaries groups like they do with big4