If BlackPink openly fought BTS in 2021, instead of IU, would BP's popularity be much greater than now?

  • BlackPink fighting BTS would have made it even bigger than now? 9

    1. Yes (1) 11%
    2. No (8) 89%

    Russia's most celebrated military figure is Alexander Suvorov.


    Suvorov did many interesting things, like leading the Russian forces conquer Switzerland (unbelievable now but he actually did that) and fighting the Austrians in Italy.


    However, Suvorov always missed Napoleon just by a hair, and died without meeting the French Emperor in battle. The Russians still argue to this day that if Suvorov lived longer(the reigning Czar at that time didn't like him which led to his earlier death) he, not Wellington, would have defeated Bonaparte but we will never know.

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    A question which will never be answered is what would have occurred if BlackPink fought BTS in earnest during the latter's heyday.


    At the height of BTS' power, BlackPink was also promoted around the world as the female counterpart of BTS, and excitement on it was very, very, very high.


    Yet the hoped for battle between BTS and BlackPink never took place, to the chagrin of KPop Watchers around the world.


    A BTS vs BlackPink battle would have caught the attention of every music listener on earth.


    The Muhammad Ali vs George Foreman battle in 1974, long after Ali died and Foreman is now an old man, is talked about to this day. In fact, even though Foreman lost that fight, his fame endured for longer than any other boxer from that era because he was Ali's match.


    But Mr. Yang , who distributes BTS' digitals in Japan thru YG Japan, decided to go lucrative rather than giving BlackPink the chance to shine really big on the face of earth. (At that time Yang was not running YG, in name, but we all know whoever was put on had to answer to him.)


    I see that NewJeans distributes its digitals through YG Plus, a company answerable to Yang.


    In a sense, like Bang himself being trapped by the allure of money from the K-O-R-E-A-N government, Yang was put into a bind by the ash which YG Plus was earning thru distributing BTS' digitals for virtually free, and chose not to make BlackPink fight BTS.


    The Onus of fighting BTS fell to Lee Jieun, the owner of Edam Entertainment who didn't have any obligations to the government, the music distribution company, etc; at that time she owned Edam Entertainment outright, and being its sole singer, she could name her opponents and fight them whenever she felt like, a luxury she doesn't have now.


    Lee Jieun's efforts finally weakened BTS' power decisively in K-O-R-E-A, and made it sent to the barracks. For her contribution of defeating BTS, the then-owner of Edam Entertainment was ranked higher than any BTS members in the Rolling Stone ranking of the greatest artists of all time, and for a domesticist with zero English songs sung originally (she covered a few English songs in the past), she became the #9 most awarded singer in the entire world in 2021 and arguably the most internationally famous domestic singer of all time (yes, I know it is an oxymoron.)


    But, although it raised her esteem in K-O-R-E-A a lot, because she lacked any bases out of it, it did not really benefit her too much, something which was demonstrated when some French influencer wannabe brushed the former owner (by that time she was not the owner) of Edam Entertainment around.


    She would not do that against BlackPink, especially against an internationally famous BlackPink.


    In retrospect, because of YG's tendency to go after the immediate profit, the world missed the Fight of the Century, and BlackPink missed the chance to get the whole globe's attention. Instead the glory went to a domesticist for whom it had very little use of internationally.

  • I'm still at the fence about whether coming back every year with new music is really that needed. Why do we have to treat Kpop as some sports game?

    KPop is very competitive and if one is not there for one year one is kinda forgotten.


    A year without a comeback is seen as a long hiatus in the KPop world, which leads to the onus of every act having to at least release something once during a calendar year.


    It is literally a huge sports arena, and those who don't play are not admitted. Very brutal but that is what keeps KPop fresh.

  • ;judgingpepe: Idk about fighting anyone but I believe if the followed up TA sooner is would’ve been more successful than Born pink… but the girls needed 2021 off to rest and relax also do solo stuff.

    One can always do solo stuff after the group peaks and one feeds to the existing fans.


    2021 was the year when it could reach the highest but Mr . Yang choose to waste the whole year for nothing.

  • BTS is Napoleon. IU is Wellington and BP is Suvorov. Did i got that right?

    Then congrats to BP for conquering Switzerland.

    A great job, but in history, I am afraid the singer below this sentence might be remembered as being greater than BP, since she did fight BTS while BP didn't.

  • na, IU is greater than BP because its on my spotify on 4th while BP is on 7th.

    But Wellington would get his ass kicked by Napoleon if Blücher hadnt arrived up in time.

    The Blucher would be another YG singer, namely Lee Chanhyuk of Akmu.

  • I think you have a blind spot for Aespa.


    Remember that Celebrity and Rollin had conquered Korea in early 2021, taking over after Dynamite's legendary run. The only song that would stand in their way was Dynamite's followup, Butter. It was virtually guaranteed that one of these three songs would be the SOTY for 2021.


    But when Izone fell, the 4th generation of Kpop was finally allowed to come out of Izone's shadow and shine on their own. The dam had burst open, and it was Next Level that ended up taking the entire country by storm.


    In one fell swoop, Aespa dealt a massive, mortal blow to IU and BTS, and ended both of them. After the Butter defeat, BTS was never the same. PTD, MU, Yet to Come, and all the solos charted progressively worse, to the point where BTS finally laid down their arms and went on temporary hiatus. IU's Strawberry Moon was no competition for Next Level and got steamrolled, which led her to take a hiatus from song production for over a year.


    Right now, it's all Ive/New Jeans/Idle/LSRFM. Maybe this new YGGG. But they all owe a debt of gratitude for what Aespa and Next Level did in paving the way.

  • You're funny. :pepe-popcorn:

  • Imagine the hate and fanwars if nugu groups start to beat up the top groups. 🙈😩

    Which is why such kind of shows were never held. Nugu groups, knowing they have nothing to lose and some notoriety to gain (even if they are kicked out, if they gain some fame there are other ways to earn money) will attack more famous groups.

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