I think yes.
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RE: Do you think Txt deserve to be big like NewJeans?
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This question is : why don’t bgs have the same success like GGs in Korea? New jeans are successful just like multiple other GGs. Because GGs are liked.
Korea does not seem to care about idol bgs. The last of it being exo/BTS in 2012/13. So in 10 years there has not been a BG they loved (some one off hits and semi hit groups like winner but over all nothing of note) It’s kind of funny how kpop is huge among genZ world over but korean genZ cannot care less about idol boys. I wonder what about them turns them off.
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I disagree not just because of txt but any kpop group
I don't think any kpop group deserves anything
deserve
do something or have or show qualities worthy of (a reaction which rewards or punishes as appropriate).
why is any group more deserving of any other? are they harder working? more talented? but again who is to judge who is harder working or more talented? what if I think my favs are more deserving than your favs (and vice versa)? is every group deserving in which case none are deserving?
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This question is : why don’t bgs have the same success like GGs in Korea? New jeans are successful just like multiple other GGs. Because GGs are liked.
Korea does not seem to care about idol bgs. The last of it being exo/BTS in 2012/13. So in 10 years there has not been a BG they loved (some one off hits and semi hit groups like winner but over all nothing of note) It’s kind of funny how kpop is huge among genZ world over but korean genZ cannot care less about idol boys. I wonder what about them turns them off.
i thought its because of noise music but txt without noise music havent done well either
maybe they find today's male idols and their music uncool and corny
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I disagree not just because of txt but any kpop group
I don't think any kpop group deserves anything
deserve
do something or have or show qualities worthy of (a reaction which rewards or punishes as appropriate).
why is any group more deserving of any other? are they harder working? more talented? but again who is to judge who is harder working or more talented? what if I think my favs are more deserving than your favs (and vice versa)? is every group deserving in which case none are deserving?
I get what op says. In my opinion, txt and newjeans can be considered similar. Similar 5 members, no official position and such that. Also both debuted with fun and fresh music which wasnt trend of their time. Even txt had so much hype being first junior after bts, but the result for them are very stark.
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Nope.
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Nope.
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I get what op says. In my opinion, txt and newjeans can be considered similar. Similar 5 members, no official position and such that. Also both debuted with fun and fresh music which wasnt trend of their time. Even txt had so much hype being first junior after bts, but the result for them are very stark.
but what makes them deserving? 5 members, no official position, fresh music? is that the deserving criteria? does that mean groups who aren't similar to txt/nj aren't deserving?
let me use an example your fav (or one of your fav is treasure) do you think txt is more deserving than treasure or vice versa? what if I replace txt or treasures name with the mirad of other bg or gg...
or is the position that because nj succeeded and txt is very similar to nj that therefore txt should also succeed? (or rather txt deserves to hit it big?)
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Same reason I don't think most bgs need to blow up rn.
Quality just isn't there
interesting by quality u mean music wise? talent wise? performance wise?
I dont see them being less talented than newjeans and since debut their music was literally the most praised, never seen people disliking their music tbh
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Music quality
I've long since given up on talent mattering anymore
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but what makes them deserving? 5 members, no official position, fresh music? is that the deserving criteria? does that mean groups who aren't similar to txt/nj aren't deserving?
let me use an example your fav (or one of your fav is treasure) do you think txt is more deserving than treasure or vice versa? what if I replace txt or treasures name with the mirad of other bg or gg...
or is the position that because nj succeeded and txt is very similar to nj that therefore txt should also succeed? (or rather txt deserves to hit it big?)
never said groups not similar to nwjs undeserving, it says groups similar to nwjs deserving
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Maybe so, still don't like most of what I hear
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Maybe so, still don't like most of what I hear
that's more of a personal preference tho then
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that's more of a personal preference tho then
What do you think they need to hit big then? Because they have had nearly every opportunity afforded to them
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never said groups not similar to nwjs undeserving, it says groups similar to nwjs deserving
isn't that contradictory my friend?
if groups similar to nj are deserving then what of groups not similar to nj? are they deserving but "less deserving"?
regardless of the above the question would be why is nj deserving/more deserving than other groups? the groups I can think of that I remember debuting around nj - CSR? Lapilus? mimirose?
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What do you think they need to hit big then? Because they have had nearly every opportunity afforded to them
thats why lol, they had every opportunity but still cant get huge I dont understand whats the problem, their music is much more public friendly and easy on the ears than other popular boygroups but they are not doing much better. When Lovesong released I thought its gonna be hit in sk because people like sad melancholic song from boygroups but it's crickets.
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isn't that contradictory my friend?
if groups similar to nj are deserving then what of groups not similar to nj? are they deserving but "less deserving"?
regardless of the above the question would be why is nj deserving/more deserving than other groups? the groups I can think of that I remember debuting around nj - CSR? Lapilus? mimirose?
groups can be different and equally deserving tho, there's nothing as nwjs more deserving
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im banking on some pedo shit instead tbh
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groups can be different and equally deserving tho, there's nothing as nwjs more deserving
that I can agree with my friend
but if so why do you then agree with the anon's proposition that "txt deserves to be big like nj" because if every group is deserving then one can basically state "[any group bg or gg] deserve to be big like nj" - would you agree with that statement?
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im banking on some pedo shit instead tbh
Uh...explain on that comrade
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u are making me confused with all that i quit
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Can we stop pretending that groups like TXT are somehow flopping when they're pulling in millions in sales, streams, and doing sold out concerts?
I listened to an album of a group today that's been out for over a week and their title track doesn't even have 40k streams. They would love to pull the numbers of the groups this site call flops.
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u are making me confused with all that i quit
all good my friend
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i mean that is obviously because they have been longer, touring is more about fandom size
i think op meant it more as public perception when they debut because of their similar fun and fresh music at debut
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i mean that is obviously because they have been longer, touring is more about fandom size
i think op meant it more as public perception when they debut because of their similar fun and fresh music at debut
Honestly, historically BGs were never huge at debut. Songs wise for charting.
In fact, how many BGs you see now have their debut song as one of the most popular?
So this don't even need to apply to TXT, it can be applied to any BG literally.
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BTS is successful even with them. I don’t think lack of success for BGs has anything to do with stuff like auto tune or noise Vs pleasant music. It seems to be the idol themselves. People just don’t care about BG idols.
Maybe they’re boring? SKZ is self compassed, ikon are self composed/have those hip hop SMTM artists and they’re not consistently successful like say big bang were or BTS were. Seventeen and NCT and maybe treasure pretty boys, good vocals comparable to EXO are not at EXO’s level. TXT similar to shinee quirky and fun but not having that mega hit either.
No matter what BGs do. Even if they’re similar to other past successful groups just can’t seem to get hits. Or even semi hits if not national hits.
My theory is Produce killed the hype for BGs
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The fact is there are ZERO now. BGs have always been less than GGs overall. But never to such an extent that there are zero hit BGs
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