RE: "why is red velvet a favourite of multis and casual listeners?"

I don’t been this as an insult : they do not have the IT factor. And that’s ok. Their music is good but they’re never gonna have the rabid fandom.

Their music is known for good reasons

As for the reason those people don't turn rv into their ult, maybe the lack of content that would tend to help other groups get a loyal fandom

they are not threat to anyone so

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I don’t been this as an insult : they do not have the IT factor. And that’s ok. Their music is good but they’re never gonna have the rabid fandom.

I agree, but I'd phrase it a different way.

Red Velvet's music speaks for itself as do the members who are all pretty chill and seem to enjoy the success that they have attained. They are all talented women and no one needs to go around banging pots and pans screaming about how talented they are because nearly every K-Pop fan knows they have talent already.

Their music is good. I like them a lot.

Since they have a dual concept, they often switch from one concept to another and same for their sound at least for the title track so I think that casual fans or listeners like a part of their discography and not the other. International fans prefer their velvet side for example whereas fans who have them as ultis like me love every side of Red Velvet.

They are a stable group - they do EVERYTHING well that's why I feel and they change concept enough to where people can pick up and drop them depending on the song.

This was a problem problem with 2nd gen girl groups. Sistar, Wonder Girls, After School, T-ara, 4Minute, Kara, Girls Day etc, popular groups with good public image but with almost non existant fandom. I don't even know any of these fandom names. The only 2nd gen ggs that you could actually say have truly strong fandoms are SNSD and (peace be upon them) 2NE1.

Mabe that's why SONES and Blackjacks would fight, not cos they were the top 2 but because they were the only 2

Because Red Velvet music very high quality. They are always comeback with the good music and unique concept. I agree Red Velvet doesn't overdo it anything, So it may seem soft to some people. I mean they are Velvet indeed. but they can turn any song into gem with their versatile vocals.