[enter-talk] WHO OPENED THE 4TH GENERATION FOR FEMALE IDOLS?

Quote from Slayurfaves

itzy is obviously 4th generation they opened the 4th generation along with txt but I understand why some might think they aren't since they debuted in 2019 and there are many girl groups debuting now

but when people include gidle and loona as part of 4th generation when they are clearly late 3rd generation I'm like

Quote from SooYoung

I still consider 4th gen started in 2019

But i can understand why some people consider it started in 2021 because it's since 2021 that 4th gen group really start to make wave

if 2019 is the start of 4th gen, bgs are doing even worst than before, only TXT and Enhypen are having success there

aespa

Quote from atropos

The Boyz and skz are considered 4th gen too so.... Bgs just haven't made any impact even tho they have big fandoms

if the boyz and skz are 4th gen then so are gidle and fromis

I would say Itzy. Not really sure but I think Dalla Dalla was the best performing GG song in 2019. But this year 4th gen GGs are in full force most of them doing better than their previous release and 3rd gen GGs. Of course, I am talking about Korean charts here.

Quote from atropos

Gidle definitely. I don't see any reason why they shouldn't be considered when ateez and skz are. Fromis I have actually never seen put them in any gen?

someone already answered this in another post but girl groups boy groups work differently in terms of generation most boy groups tend to debut a bit earlier . Take for example super junior / BB, wonder girls/ Kara/ snsd and in my opinion there's way more demand with girl groups in general. Le't be honest there aren't many successful boy groups for 4th generation if you think about it but for girl groups the list keeps growing every year.

itzy when that dalla dalla mv elevator opened its doors

I said it before and i'll say it again.

Itzy fired the warning shot, the shot across the bow at 3rd generation, letting them know that they were on the clock and that 4th generation was coming.

Aespa drew first blood with Next Level, they took down the literal titans in BTS and eventually outcharted IU herself, as well as all the musty trot and ballad singers, to come up with the biggest hit of 2021.

Izone's sacrifice really opened the floodgates. From the ashes of their sacrifice, we got Next Level, and after that, we got the beginning of the 4.5 generation of Kpop with Ive, who is now the most popular GG in Korea.

We are now in Peak 4th gen with 4.5 gen groups Ive and Newbeans rising up like Twice and BP, plus at least a half dozen players still fighting furiously for the digimon crown like Lesserafim, StayC, Idle and Itzy.