maybe because illit are the ones being flooded with hate rn? newjeans is also in a pitiful position with their whole career being in limbo over this. and i think most reasonable people are also sad for them. but some people have really been disregarding the fact that illit is getting massive amounts of shit. every single schedule they have is now under scrutiny. even hand motions they do. mass hate towards a grop with minors isnt something i think you should be taking so lightly. newjeans has public support. illit does not.
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Just based on the way that HYBE seems to be personally attacking MHJ and only really going for her credibility as a human and nit as much as a person breaking laws it feels like she might be stretching the truths, but theyre just lying
i just find it a bit ironic that certain users were dragging the credibility of tmikpop for being an army but keep posting this account which has even more biased reporting. mhj's sibling was brought up because mhj allegedly belives her shaman friend is being possessed by the sibling. they already said that before. this framing of them "using her deceased sibling" without a full trans is so... disingenuous
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Just because she might be exposed as a lier (which shouldn’t be much of a surprise) please don’t act like those who couldn’t stand her from the very beginning did so because they saw right through her facade. A lot of you didn’t believed her out of loyalty to Hybe or BTS, regardless if she was telling the truth or not. Like be for real lol
i just find your posturing on this a little funny because its not like this scandal was mhj's first controversy. many of us had other points of reference of her behavior and valid reasons to see her as untrustworthy. its the people that jumped to mhj's defense that seem to have forgotten she has been a problematic figure for years.
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if she isn't granted the injunction, isn't that already enough proof that hybe had a right to fire her? idt countersuing will end up going in her favor, tho she probably will.
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confirmed where? Can you share the proof for these claims
mhj already admitted the chats with the shaman were real in her own prescon. the chats were she explicitly said "these dumb kids won't give me any trouble, right?" it was unclear whether or not this was referring to newjeans, but my interpretation was that this was a message from when newjeans were preparing their debut. hybe has over 50k messages including messages about when newjeans should debut so.
and the sexual assault by VP L has already been mentioned and never addressed directly by ador. there is no defense of him and i believe all victims first so...
if you can't even keep up with evidence that has been posted and discussed in these threads multiple times, who do you think you are to be trying to refute things.
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I don't even care about those texts, I mean what do they prove, that MHJ is mean? Okay, I guess, what does it bring to the case? Her personality os absolutely irrelevant.
someone's personality doesn't say anything about whether or not they should be fired from ajob now? lol. the point from hybe's side was already stated in court. they wanted to prove that all her bs about "caring so much about newjeans" is not true. none of this is about them. its about her own power struggle with the company. the alleged text also have proof that she ignored a SA accusation from staff and used abusive language towards the person in response. that is not ok in any corporate setting.
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So basically he has no proof and he could be completely lying (which he is) 🤡
if they're a lie he did a bang on job of impersonating how mhj talks. bc did we forget the expletives she yelled out during her prescon? those messages sound exactly like stuff she would say. and they only corroborate other stuff that she is confirmed to have done/said already. 1. she didn't give a shit about the SA complaint from a female employee 2. she thinks nwjns are "dumb kids".
as others have mentioned, these texts werent even needed for most of us to know mhj is not a good person. and the people who needed the wake up call the most about her don't even believe them lol. so idc if they're real or not atp. i already knew enough personally.
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the only users still pretending mhj gives a shit about nwjs just dont want to admit how wrong they have been this whole time.
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...submitting a petition is not "suing"
bsh literally also submitted a petition to have them throw out mhj injunction. im assuming the parents are petitioning for the injunction to be granted. twitter users are not smart... -
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I don't see any corresponding article on this.
There's an article about Ador's side stating that some text messages aren't admissable and the court agreeing
And there is Lee Jinho's video.
There isn't however anything confirming those messages in Jinho's video are the ones submitted to the court nor that MHJ commented on them.
bc there aren't articles reporting on his video. others have already said that in this thread. he said in the video that he reached out to ador for comment and that the texts were the ones submitted in court. that is info from him, not an article.
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When did she accept they are real? Is it assumed because mhj side didn't want them to be read aloud in court?
allegedly the journalist reached out to ador for comment and they only said "its out of context". that defense implies that they are real, but just clips of greater convos. which still doesn't excuse any of the phrasing
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i think some people are confused. N Capital is referring to the Saudi Arabian investor, not Naver.
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according to hybe, learning about the harassment case was one of the reasons the audit was even initiated. i remember the first reports about the audit happeneing and them wanting mhj to step down mentioning that an adore employee complained to them about workplace harassment. seems like hybe only found out about it recently. not like mhj escalated or reported it herself clearly.
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During the hearing, HYBE alleged that Min Hee Jin’s motherly figure was all a facade. The agency claimed that Min Hee Jin hated working with NewJeans and had on several occasions claimed that the members were mentally weak and shouldn’t be treated as artists. The agency goes on to claim that Min Hee Jin gaslighted the members and wanted them to be submissive to her.
It is notable that HYBE didn’t provide acceptable evidence to their claims. The agency did however offer alleged text messages, which release was successfully objected by ADOR.
sufficient evidence wasnt provided bc mhj's legal team objected to the texts being shown.. the texts were the evidence. is it that hard for you to understand? they were still submitted as evidence tho bc thats how court works. you submit things before you make your case before the judge.
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I personally don't belive mhj never entertained the "let's beat aespa" convos for it to have gone that far. The way she hates illit and lsrf with every fiber of her being, she prob wanted to beat all the other rookies around that time too. She is clearly not a girl's girl with all this stuff about the sexual harassment and shit talking nwjns.
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[Exclusive] Min Hee-jin's 'whistle-blowing' was HYBE's 'album push'
Min Hee-jin, CEO of Ador: “The answer to the problem raised by whistleblowing (about HYBE) was gratitude. “There was no answer and it was immediately investigated as an audit.” “If I hadn’t whistle-blown, I don’t think this (press conference) would have happened. You're getting a little frustrated because I keep sending whistle-blowing letters and raising issues. He's not listening. Boy, that won't work. “I’m being filmed right now, right?”
Lawyer Lee Soo-geun of Shin & Kim Law Firm (legal representative): “We were renegotiating the contract between shareholders (HYBE-Min Hee-jin, CEO of Ador). I asked (CEO Min Hee-jin) not to file a whistleblower complaint or anything like that because I had to negotiate between shareholders. (CEO Min Hee-jin) ‘If I don’t fix this right away, I don’t have to negotiate a contract with shareholders, and I can ignore that.’ But I have to file this (whistleblowing) and put myself to work. That’s why I did it.”
CEO Min Hee-jin and her legal representative mentioned internal reporting against HYBE several times at a press conference on the 25th of last month.
According to the legal community, in an email (document) sent by CEO Min Hee-jin to HYBE management, CEO Min Hee-jin was advised by HYBE to 'pull out' 100,000 albums for New Jeans, but she refused and 'reported' ' in protest.
According to the document, CEO Min Hee-jin said, “The big problem with HYBE is that it is following the ills of the existing industry and continuing to engage in immoral acts without any sense of criticism.” She added, “It is not fulfilling its social responsibility as a representative company in the entertainment industry. “The governance structure is also not transparent, and as a result, direct and indirect damage to New Jeans continues to increase,” she said.
CEO Min Hee-jin said, “The most representative thing is HYBE’s ‘album push’. This is an act of deceiving shareholders, members, the capital market, and the fandom, and has already received strong criticism from public opinion, and HYBE, which is a leader in the industry, is in a regulatory blind spot. “The fact that they are using this to push out albums is a very serious problem.”
At the same time, “New Jeans was recommended by HYBE to ‘push out the album’,” and “When New Jeans releases the ‘Get Up’ album, HYBE recommended that they push out 100,000 copies, saying they could beat Aespa’s initial release record. “I received it, but I flatly refused it because it went against Ador’s business philosophy.”
Regarding the reason why CEO Min Hee-jin refused to 'push the album' recommended by HYBE, "I was concerned that the pure first place records that New Jeans had achieved could be tarnished and the various business opportunities that arose as a result could be damaged." she said.
In addition, “If the ‘album push’ issue receives public attention it will be a bigger problem in the future, even New Genes, who resolutely refused to push the album just because they are a member of HYBE, will be seen as if they used ‘album push’ to disguise their achievements. “It could be misunderstood,” she said.
CEO Min Hee-jin said, “We even encouraged groups like New Jeans, who have high album sales without ‘pushing out albums’, saying they could surpass other groups’ records, but what about other groups?” she added, “This shows HYBE’s serious lack of ethical awareness. “It shows,” she said.
In addition, “I know that this is already a widespread problem within the HYBE label, but I ask you to intensively investigate whether there are any transactions with subsidiaries that could be seen as ‘record pushing’, including whether there are any transactions with conditional returns, and deal with them sternly by dealing with them transparently. “I’m telling you,” she said.
In addition, CEO Min Hee-jin said: ▲Discrimination between labels in business areas other than production, such as HYBE's distribution, business, and management ▲HYBE's excessive business intervention in the operation of each label ▲Pushing certain labels and a 'military-style soccer' culture ▲ She pointed out HYBE's lax management ethics and requested corrections and answers.
'Album push' refers to an album seller or distributor purchasing a large amount of the album's initial volume (sales during the first week of release) and then the entertainment agency compensating or supporting sales through events such as fan signing events, which has become a secret practice in the industry. In order to focus on the 'initial sales' figure, fans purchase more albums than necessary with the goal of participating in events, and artists are mobilized for that many events, leading to a vicious cycle.
Jong-eon Noh, CEO of Existence Law Firm, said, “If HYBE’s ‘album push’ actually went ahead, it would not only be a serious problem shaking the foundation of the K-pop industry, but also how those with capital and power would abuse that power to trample on the dreams and passion of young people.” "'Pushing out albums' is a typical form of 'record hoarding' and is a criminal act that disrupts the distribution order. It prevents the development and growth of other idols through distorted record sales information, and gives stock investors an idea of album sales volume. “There is a possibility that this could amount to a breach of trust that could cause damage to stock investors by providing distorted information about the company,” he said.https://v.daum.net/v/20240517132933758
This is so confusing to me. So everyone in the industry is doing it and it is a poorly hidden secret, but its illegal? Everyone should be investigated then. Bc literally all groups have the excessive preorder benefits and fansigns now. All companies are doing it... kpop industry about to fr blacklist mhj for this lol
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so much for mhj being a feminist icon
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I was wondering when this would come back up. Hybe originally said the audit rlly kicked off bc an employee reporting an incedent like this
