About Bang PD not greeting a member, was it a one off with one member then or was he doing it frequently to all of them?
The specific incedent that keeps being brought up is "the elevator incedent". Seems like everything else was just a vague feeling that he was avoiding them.
I mean, i think hybe's side had more reason to bring up the shaman stuff in court simply bc mhj's character and potential mismanagement of company secrets and company funds is def relevant to whether or not she should be fired. People can say its completely irrelevant. But it says smtg that she was using mysticism for help with management decisions. Idk why mhj carried her vendetta against bsh into it though. You would think park jiwon would be the better target considering she claimed he pressured her to sign the alleged slave contract.
I just find the narrative that "it doesn't make sense that mhj went to naver or dunamu bc they are buddy buddy with hybe" so funny. Um, did anyone think that mhj and hybe's relationship had detirioratimed this much prior to the audit announcement? There are so many things about these business relationships that we have no idea about.
I dont think them bringing up the shaman was anything other than an attempt to assasinate her character and i have never said otherwise. I just dont see how that compares to mhj's court defense literally being that they cant fire her bc bsh is an asshole. Idc about him either way. the deflection is cute tho
um... this is beyond media play. mhj was in a court of law talking about "see nwjns members said bsh ignored them". but nice try.
idt she should be so focused on other hybe exec shortcomings when the purpose of the injunction hearing is to prove hybe doesnt have a right to fire HER. bsh being an asshole doesnt absolve her.
im just going to say, there are a lot of ways of speaking to people in korean culture and even certain actions that they think are fine that people not privy to korean culture think are weird. if korean people do not see it as an issue, thats their prerogative. but people with a different cultural lense are going to see it differently. like, even the "nostalgic" "she was cuter" explanation rubs me the wrong way bc mhj is not their parent or grandparent. she is their BOSS. and many people are excusing it all away like she does not have such a weird power dynamic with those girls .
Where? Unless they post proof, hard to believe since MHJ and NJ are close.
i mean did we forget her confirmed convo with the shaman where she literally said "these dumb kids will listen to me and not cause any trouble, right"? she does not have a nice way of speak about other people, even if that statement wasn't about nwjns.
multiple things can be true at once lol. mhj and co talked about in their own docs the saudi and singaporean investors. mhj even basically admitted that they were talking about that stuff by simply saying those were jokes.
weverse is not a project with naver... hybe essentially bought vlive and integrated its streaming service into weverse.
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[Exclusive] Min Hee-jin met with Naver and Daum, asking them to take over Ador.
It was confirmed that Min Hee-jin, CEO of Ador, contacted Naver and Upbit operator Daum to secure management rights. Naver and Daum reportedly admitted to HYBE that they met with CEO Min. As the existence of an external investor that has never been revealed until now is revealed, HYBE's argument that CEO Min has been pushing to seize management rights is expected to gain strength. So far, CEO Min has claimed, “I have never met any investors (to seize management rights of the company).”
According to the investment banking (IB) industry and legal circles on the 17th, CEO Min met with Daum Chairman Song Chi-hyung and Naver officials and proposed the acquisition of Ador. Representative Min is known to have made remarks to Chairman Song, such as “pressure HYBE to leave Ador.” Daum holds a 5.6% stake in HYBE and is the third largest shareholder with the right to elect directors.
The circumstances of CEO Min's contact with Naver and Daum were revealed during HYBE's audit of CEO Min. Previously, HYBE began an internal audit on the 22nd of last month after confirming that CEO Min had accessed and illegally downloaded trade secrets that only HYBE can manage, such as dividend details by artist and income by region. This is to confirm the so-called 'usurpation of management rights' attempt by CEO Min to attract external investors and sell HYBE's shares of Ador.
It is said that during the audit process, HYBE accessed CEO Min's PC and discovered KakaoTalk conversation logs containing CEO Min's contacts with Naver and Daum. In this document, Representative Min said, “Song Chi-hyung doesn’t even understand what I’m saying. XX” and “Naver still understands it rather well”. Previously, HYBE also disclosed a conversation history in which CEO Min responded “jackpot” to Ador’s plan to secure cash through put options and purchase shares of Ador from Hive through financial investors (FIs). .
Ador's shares are owned by HYBE (80%) and CEO Min (18%). The remaining 2% was distributed by CEO Min to two internal directors (Vice President Shin and Chief Creative Director Kim). In order for CEO Min to secure management rights to Ador, she must attract outside investors.
So far, CEO Min has been protesting, saying, “I have never met any investor to seize management rights of the company.” CEO Min also responded to HYBE's claim that they had discussed the seizure of management rights with external investors the day before, saying, "We knew that capital increase or sale was impossible without the consent of major shareholders, so we did not provide any review opinions regarding the seizure of management rights, such as capital increase or sale." “He countered.
In response to this, HYBE said, “Specific conversations with those in the investment industry cannot proceed if it was Saddam who took over management rights,” and added, “CEO Min said at a press conference on April 25, ‘Bring before me who the investors were and what they were conspiring with.’ She deceived the entire public by pretending that he had never met the investor, but the lies are being revealed one by one by evidence and facts.”
Meanwhile, on this day, the hearing on the provisional injunction filed by Representative Min to ban the exercise of voting rights is underway. The gist of the content is to prevent HYBE from exercising its voting rights on CEO Min's dismissal ahead of Ador's extraordinary general shareholders' meeting to be held at the end of this month. If the court makes a decision to grant it, HYBE, which owns 80% of Ador's shares, will be blocked from exercising its voting rights, making it impossible to dismiss CEO Min.
so.. more evidence that ms. min has lied through her teeth...
did she have any thought hybe would fire her before this whole mess even started? per her own account she only started to distrust pjw after she felt he misled her about the contract
i am def interested to see where hybe's criminal complaints and fss complaint go. if they both get thrown out it wont look god at all
i really do wonder the specifics of the noncompete clause. what some people have speculated is probably close, but it makes me wonder what set off mhj's concern for it a year after the fact. because it only even matters if she wants to leave hybe and work somewhere else, no?
this whole thing is so shady. pjw did not handle that convo well at all. its not a good look if they pressured her to sign the contract, but i still can't believe she really signed it without requesting she have time to let her own personal council look at it. that was such a mistake.
Sending newjeans on an extensive tour would offer an easy short term solution. That could take about 6 months with breaks, time Hybe could use to figure out the creative path forward
Still nor sure how serious I should take Hybe's mention of getting a "grammy winning" producer on board. The candidates seem pretty limited l, and if they go with a foreign one there will be a bit of a language barrier with some of the members as well. The only name I could think of was Andrew Watt who is managed by Scooter Braun, but he is quite in demand in general. Though only somebody like that I could kinda understand why it would take so long to get him as he will have many other commitments
i have seen people say that newjeans does not have enough songs to tour. i think that is why the full album was coming first... but they can always go the route of other ggs and cover songs during their concerts
i honestly wonder what some people's vision for newjeans' next steps actually is. whatever full album mhj was working on for them isn't happening if she gets fired. and if she somehow isn't fired this month, ador will def be put in a spot where newjeans activities after tokyo dome will be halted until she is removed either way. idt tokkis will be happy if hybe rushes a half assed cb for the girls by the end of the year after all this. and many tokkis clearly wont be happy if the girls have any lengthy hiatus for any reason. so what is truly next?
is a cb in early 2025 the best middle ground?
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Eh nevermind i forgot to put "kpop group" songs in title
because its not just about the producer, even if thats all the parents got from a convo none of us were in the room for. mhj will be gone. all of her "intellectual property" will be gone. all of the songs she had in the vault will be gone. all of the future concepts she had in her head will be gone. most of ador staff are prob getting gutted at this point too bc its hybe and they don't like people who speak against them. newjeans will essentially be starting from scratch with only their previous content as a benchmark for a new creative to work from. they have to hire the producer, AND actually work on mapping out their future releases and put together a full album and comeback. will all of that actually take 1.5 years? idk. i don't work in the music industry. but u.s artists take years working on albums. the kpop industry as a whole is the odd one out by pumping cbs out like a machine. all those jokes about nwjns' next cb without mhj sounding nugu and being low budget but people cant visualize that it would actually take time to do things right by the group.
i personally think they should probably drop the illusive "grammy producer" for a shorter timeline, but if we, or the parents, want newjeans to work with someone just as influential as mhj...its going to take time to poach them.
Honestly, the more I think about it the more the 1.5 year hiatus makes sense. Because the legal battle will probably take time and then Hybe will need to clean the whole house, find new people, take control of everything.
exactly what i thought. i can understand that its upsetting that plans that were already announced by ador (the album and the 2025 tour) are clearly going to be scrapped. i also dont rlly like that. but the more i think about it, the album probably isn't even out of the beginning brainstorming stage, and i doubt they've already put deposits on tour locations. this stuff probably hasn't even be fully realized yet. if they're going to replace all of ador's board, and create brand new content for them without mhj's brain behind it, its going to take a while.
But ik that’s probably the only reason you so invested anyways
she rlly won't 
