BLACKPINK's best song is Stay.
It is, in my opinion, their magnum opus.
A truly special song. And their peak magic.
BLACKPINK's best song is Stay.
It is, in my opinion, their magnum opus.
A truly special song. And their peak magic.
Most definitely LOOSEMBLE.
Really cool release.
Display MoreYeah, when there are like 100-200 debuts a year its pretty big
I run (mostly) full lists on debuts and disbandments every year since a few years now and you can see from there how big the Japanese music market is, aswell as if you would look at the lists on pages like JPop-fandom
This is for example my 2023-list:
ThreadJPop Debuts 2023This is the same list as for the previous years, focusing on 2023-debuts
Debuted…
- GUM (Girlgroup) - Exact date unknown
- NYAAANYA (Girlgroup) - Exact date unknown
- LUMRiSE (Girlgroup) - January, exact date unknown
- CHEMICAL X (Girlgroup) - January, exact date unknown
- Re:SNACKS (Male duo) - January, 1st***
- KISS GIRL'S (Girlgroup) - January, 8th
- Boku Dake no Tenshi (Girlgroup) - January, 8th
- LIL LEAGUE (Boygroup) - January, 11th*********
- Auroland (Boygroup) - January, 13th****************
- FILL ME TRAX
And my 2024-list:
ThreadJPop Debuts 2024This is the same list as for the previous years, focusing on 2024
Debuted…
- Number_i (Boygroup) - January, 1st 5
- Lovesick (Boygroup) - January, 5th
- Tsunomaki Watame (Female soloist) - January, 10th11
- Chiba Shoya (Male Soloist) -January, 17th
- LarmeR (Girlgroup) - January, 23rd
- Palpitink (Girlgroup) - January, 27th
- Vui Vui (Girlgroup) - January, 29th
- GALDEMiC (Boygroup) - January, 31st
- Noreco (Girlgroup) - February, exact date unknown
- Enter*** (Girlgroup) - February, 2nd
- 上田 竜也 (Male soloist) - February, 7th9
Some agencies who are big often do debut a lot soloists, but also tend to give a space to actors/actresses, youtuber, athletes,... who also sing and there are also many small companies who have like 1-2 artists. Most small companies also tend to only collect fans inside the prefecture they are located in since it is too expensive for some acts to promote themself to a bigger audience if they can't make it big outside their prefecture and often tour only inside that prefecture or are just located towards a big city since it's cheaper for them. Only a small percentage even makes it big enough to be heard by so many people. If you think "oh male vocalists, there are probably only Eve, Kenshi Yonezu, Yuuri, SKY-HI, KEN THE 39, Ken Miyake, Tomohisa Yamashita, Vaundy and Masayuki Suzuki plus a few retiered people" as example, than it's often just the tip of the iceberg. However the largest part of JPop these days besides vocalists is mostly girlgroups, which makes it hard for local based groups to hit big, even many acts in companies with a famous girgroup have it harder these days. One example is Girls2, Lucky2 and iScream who are not really that big compared to the now disbanded girlgroups Happiness and E-girls who have been from the same agency. But also since there are too many girlgroups, a lot boys fear to not make it as a singer in Japan if they want to be in a boygroup, so there are lesser boygroup debuts than girlgroups, altho the most famous music company of Japan only has boygroups. But people have their take on it, that its hard to compete against such big names from that company and than a lot of the times boys think to either debut solo in Japan, go to Korea instead since they think they could have a better chance to ake it there or they won't debut at all. It changed a little bit when Produce made a big change towards male idol-group debuts, but some people say it was too much, altho if looking at how many groups debut, there are still way more girlgroup debuts than boygroups. And also as of now the top group-debut so far seems to be a girlgroup, with ME:I debuting from Produce 101 Japan S3 (Altho they have a big competition since Starto Entertainment, formerly known as Johnny's Entertainment, debuted a group this month called Ae! Group which is a boygroup and TOBE re-debuted 3 former King&Prince members as Number_i and they had a big start since their song GOAT is now the most streamed idol-group MV of the year so far).
It's not easy on each end. Boygroups who fear to not make it cause of too many girlgroups and girlgroups who fear to not make it since they are just one of so many with just a small fanbase and not really any income.
Thank you! You're an encyclopedia of information!
Jpop is a whole new world I've never explored.
Oh yeah great song and video. I think I remember you showing me this a long time ago. It's groovy and has that dreamy 2000s Korea asthetic. How did you even come across that video since you were only a SNSD fan back in the day?
The girl in Fan is an actress named Lee Eunsung. Don't know anything about her but she is cute as hell in the mv.
Oh I just looked her up and it seems she married the leader of Seo Taiji and Boys.
And I came into that song way late. Like a few years ago. So not at the time haha.
I don't want TWICE to go to any American festivals.
I would rather them not enter that scene at all.
I don't want their integration in the mainstream American music fanbase and market.
Just stick with their fan tours. And avoid the "Americanization" focus that is becoming normalized in kpop.
I do not follow GG's so i cannot help you but i'm sure others will be able to. good luck!
I recognize MV a bit, but I can't say I recognize the group. Jpop have hordes of groups like them and hundres of songs sounding like this.
Never heard of them. There are many groups similiar to them and most never really make it. A girl in a video once said when she was interviewed that her former group had a member who worked 3 jobs on the side so she could feed herslef and pay rent cause she earned no money from her job as idol. The girl said it was odd, because each weekend she and her group performed in venues who had mostly cheap or free entrance to the audience and so the only money they made was from photocards being sold or selfies they took and sold, she said she made on average about 21$ a night and due to production costs, her management etc. she only was left with 7$ from it and she explained how many groups she met, even with girls being as young as 12 on these events and almost never a group where she remembered to have seen them before, cause there are just so many that it's no wonder why so many people root for a different artist in Japan with barly ever being multi-fans and if than Japanese people often stan 1-2 famous artists and their local favourite.
If talking about famous groups, than you should rather look at AKB48, SKE48, Hinatazaka46, Sakurakazaka46, Atarashii Gakko, ME:I, NiziU, Tokimemi Sendenbu,... and others like that.
i've seen the MV too but don't follow them, i know they are from an audition show (that i didn't watch) i believe they are backed by the team behind Tokyo Idol Festival so i would say they are relatively popular
Display Morei googled them and here's the link to their spotify
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this is what kprofiles says:
Takane no Nadeshiko (高嶺のなでしこ) is a Japanese ten-member girl group currently under Victor Entertainment formed on July 10, 2022. They were formed through the JDOL Audition, where 7 members were selected from 36 finalists. Later, on August 5, 3 former members of Last Idol were added. They debuted on October 16, 2022 with the single “Antifan”. They made their major debut on February 21, 2024 with the single “Utsukushiku Ikiro / Koi wo Shitta Sekai”.
Thank you everyone for your help!
It's crazy. I forget how big the Japanese music scene is and that's it's not like Kpop.
I was thinking in kpop terms and like oh they have a pretty professional looking MV I bet they're a big Group they'll be Stans in the Jpop section lol.
Forgot how massive jpop actually is.
But thanks for pointing me on the right direction!
Thanks Chocolate-cheeks for the summary.
And JiminieKookie thanks for the insight into the Jpop idol scene. Sounds like a hard business...
Awesome!
Love the vibe and mood. So much of 1st Gen had this kind of melancholic vibe. Actually mirrored k-dramas of the time as well.
I find so much from this time period so nostalgic and great. Korean media of the 2000s had such a cool mood.
The girl in the MV is really pretty! Wow. Do you know who she is?
This is my entry into this vein to parallel your fav.
My favorite 1st Gen song is of that same period with a similar kind of vibe:
GOD's Pyunji (Letter). Like this it has a young girl in juxtaposition to the guy, though not a saesang relationship. But steeped in that same kind of melancholy and tragedy.
Pyunji stars a young Kim Tae Hee. And is absolute proof of her reputation in her youth as being Korea's most beautiful woman. She's unreal.
there will never be another tzuyu she is truly 1 in a million
I too wish them well on their 2nd round.
Ones 1st time doing any new activity is often very hard and can be clumsy and nerve-wracking.
They've already done it now. That's a big step. That first time.
I'm rooting for them.
At this point maybe eman is the Taiwanese grandma
and tzuyu is her granddaughter!!!
No no no I can't be the grandmother! That would be.... awkward lol.. I have a crush!!!
I talk to a real life Taiwanese grandmother.
Grandmothers love Tzuyu.
Marry me chewy
Angels are off limits to mortals!
Chewy i luv twice
TWICE loves you!
ahhh yes the return of the taiwanese grandma
PRAISE BE PRAISE BE to Tuzyu
She's back from her Vacation with all kinds of new Tzuyu legends to tell.
The word of Tzuyu must be evangelized!