Posts by Chemotter

Quote from K-PL

It wasn't an issue until it was established MHJ was in charge of the group at the time when the weird videos was filmed. But MHJ content for a certain weird market segment is what it has always been, like recently dressing members in school girl outfits at airport departures, just like it was when she was in SM with f(x) and its 14 yr olds.

I don't know why people keep pushing this angle.

It wasn't anything nefarious. Newjeans dressed in schoolgirl outfits as a spoiler.

Part of their promotional activity was the secret transfer student.

It also maybe ties into Minji's Vaundy cover where she dresses in school uniform. According to her, she chose the outfit and song.

Quote from Wateris

Apparently, MHJ Shaman ran away.

I want her services. She knew they were coming for her. which spirit tipped her off?

Quote from YamaChwan

We also have PLENTY of examples of K-Pop CEOs specifically being total shit lords towards their idols and trainees IN PERSON.

JYP is seen as the "fan favorite" amongst the big company CEOs, but he has many many skeletons in his closet, and I've seen him reduce Itzy to tears while berating them in the studio.

And that's mild and what he was comfortable with putting on camera and presenting to the public.

Like...come on.

Go look at what the 50/50 girls had to deal with, according to their complaints, and realize some mean private messages are far, FAR from the worst of what we've seen from K-Pop executives.

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I forgot what an asshole Steve Jobs was.

"“How old were you when you lost your virginity?" he asked. The candidate looked baffled. “What did you say?” “Are you a virgin?” Jobs asked. The candidate sat there flustered, so Jobs changed the subject. “How many times have you taken LSD?” Hertzfeld recalled, “The poor guy was turning varying shades of red, so I tried to change the subject and asked a straightforward technical question.” But when the candidate droned on in his response, Jobs broke in. “Gobble, gobble, gobble, gobble,” he said, cracking up Smith and Hertzfeld. “I guess I’m not the right guy,” the poor man said as he got up to leave.

Isaacson asked Jobs' best friend Jony Ive what he thought. Here's his response:

I once asked him why he gets so mad about stuff. He said, "But I don't stay mad." He has this very childish ability to get really worked up about something, and it doesn't stay with him at all. But, there are other times, I think honestly, when he's very frustrated, and his way to achieve catharsis is to hurt somebody. And I think he feels he has a liberty and license to do that. The normal rules of social engagement, he feels, don't apply to him. Because of how very sensitive he is, he knows exactly how to efficiently and effectively hurt someone. And he does do that.

Quote from YamaChwan

I've run into tons of rich old people who talk way worse.

I don't know why so many people always act like adults are incapable of rancid, toxic behavior.

In my experiences, they can be even WORSE than kids because their horrible personalities have had so much time to bake in the oven and there's no fixing them.

At least kids still have hope.

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The Dark Sides of Popular CEOs

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I just have to google it. Have people been living under a rock about CEOs? In terms of work place behavior, this isn't even in the top 10 worst. Not by a long shot.

I feel like I'm in the twilight zone.

Quote from DaisyTheGenuine

She's a middle aged woman taking about her staff and artists that way

Yes. If you notice, she used some of the same swear words and slangs in her 1st press conference. It unfortunately means that is how she communicates. It is baked in.

I don't think she deserve to be a CEO based on her decorum. Her elevation to the head of the company was a mistake, and she probably screwed herself out of any future opportunities as the head of a company. I'm all fine with that.

However, it is hard for me to discern if there is malice behind the choices in her words or if she just talks like this on default.

I don't know why everyone is shocked by her choice of words. Did you guys watch the 1st press conference? She was swearing every 30 seconds. She had to restrain herself to act professional in her 2nd press conference, yet she slipped up and used swear words.

She talks like an edgy Korean teen.

Quote from Prongs

well, in people defense...feminists these day is suffocating....

in other defense, who wants to work with people who suck at their job but good at screw someone else life...

Feminist in Korea means something different compared to the West. Most Koreans do not like to call themselves feminists since there is a huge negative connotation attached to it. Koreans prefer egalitarianism.

It all went wrong when Korean feminists started to mirror the incel. Basically, they went down the path of an eye for an eye. In the process, they burned a lot of good will. In fact, 페미 has turned into a sort of an insult.

Quote from K-PL

credit Reddit

March 15th, 2024 - MHJ's response after a female employee reported executive A for sexual harassment.

A: "I'm looking for someone to give me legal advice."

M: "Go get some advice. Get some good advice and make her pay. I told them to get a third party involved but regulations won't allow it. What a load of bulls***."

A: "I'm sorry for making your worry. I'll handle it."

M: "No no. Make sure to f*** her life up that b****. And all this when I gave her a chance and taught her. She's guilty of making me feel like crap."

A: "From now on, I won't say a word to any female employees, even if it's to eat lunch."

M: "You never know which of them turns out to be a crazy b**** so don't ask any women."

A: "Yes yes."

M: "I seriously want to kill those feminists. They suck at their jobs and all they're good at is stuff like this. She'll pay for it. Trying to f*** up someone else's life. Not an ounce of guilt for the wrongs she did. If she did her job properly, I wouldn't be this mad."

M: "Liven up. You never know what crazy sh** happens in life. I feel bad for you, honestly. Getting wrapped up in this crazy sh**."

A: "No matter how many times I think it over in my head, I never did anything that could cause concerns. I never did anything that I would be embarrassed about in front of my family and children."

M: "Maybe we need to countersue her for false accusations."

MHJ stan obviously had known about this for a while, and are ok with it.  

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Nothing new here. It is another recreation of the Kakaotalk presented by Hybe at court. I believe the cyber wrecker Lee Jin Ho released the same thing. All of this was addressed at MHJ's press conference.

I think you are being disingenuous in how you frame it. Are people saying MHJ is a Saint or a good person? No. However, people are doing a cost-benefit analysis.

Has she been better or worse for Newjeans compared to Source Music? What have her actions told us? She got them out of debt as soon as possible. Gave them a large portion of the profits. She gave them better living and working conditions compared to before. She kept the parents in the loop unlike Source Music, who didn't let the kids meet their parents.

Yes, she shit talks in her Kakotalk, but she hasn't done anything to harm Newjeans and their parents.

It seems most of it is just a rehash of what was released before.

New dispatch story dropped.

[단독] "인생은 실전이다, O만아"…민희진, 대퓨님의 말씀들

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KPOP fans: We should empower idols! Give them more autonomy! They should speak up if something is wrong!

NJs sides with MHJ, and their parents speak up as proxies.

KPOP fans: No, not like that! You ungrateful fools! Get back in line and be grateful towards Source Music and Hybe!

Bop. Well deserved

Quote from WheelyFab

No board has a fiduciary duty to commit illegal acts. They have to look after the interests of the shareholders within the confines of the law.

Any board will get a third party opinion on the matter at hand, e.g. music experts of their own choosing, and then act accordingly. If they wanted to get rid of MHJ, they can quickly do it. It is the responsibility of the board to let go of the CEO when the latter has acted badly.

What is the illegal act you are talking about? Did you see the quote I was responding to? The person was talking about breaking the spirit of the contract by settling with Shakatak in order to trigger one of clauses in MHJ's contract.

Do you think the courts will look favorably on that?

Yes, the interest of the shareholders is to beat the charge of plagarism. You don't want your creative team to get trashed in the media. Whether it is 250 or the other writers, these are veterans of this industry.

There are specific clauses that has to be triggered in her contract to dismiss her without paying her put options.

Hybe's first attempt was to accuse MHJ of Breach of Trust, but the court said there was no breach of trust towards ador, only Hybe. They struck out.

The second attempt was Belift lab and Source music suing MHJ for defamation. There is a clause in her contract that says she can't cause harm to other sublabels, and winning those lawsuits are seen as a just cause for dismissing MHJ. That is why Hybe is letting both sublabels go after her despite the terrible optics.

One of the other clauses says she has to cause a certain amount of monetary damage to Ador in order for her to be dismissed. Newjeans have been doing well, and Ador has been one of the top performers in Hybe.

What would the court think if Hybe directed Ador's board to intentionally sabotage MHJ by agreeing to the settlement? Do you think the court will look kindly to that? Do you think these accomplished producers and song writers will want to work with Hybe and Ador's new board?

Her contract is pretty iron clad. That is why they haven't dismissed her. For now, they have to wait out for her contract to run out, and most likely, they'll have to pay the put options.

LSFM is well loved. Online hate gets amplified so much, but most IRL people don't care about the controversies.

Quote from Taemin-Identity

I am using half of the listed products you mentioned. Guess what I’m admitting using those brands even if half of them were bought before boycott began. And guess what I’m boycotting as much as I can, and I’m not publicly posting it on my instagram, Facebook or any other Social Media for 65m audience. Guess what I’m not defending my fave for publicly supporting McDonalds. Guess what, I’m at least spreading awareness about boycott and about conflict. If your so called brain have at least processed how boycott will affect Israel or Governments even if it is selective, then you wouldn’t have been yapping all about that. If you think selective boycotting is hypocrisy, then let’s just stop all alone boycotting and start buying and eating all those products. And of course sharing with our 65 m audience. Armies are the most hypocrite fandom in the world. At least blinks admit that they did something wrong

Hmm. What are all these excuses? It is ok for me b/c x,y and z. That's all I'm reading right here.

Also, I'm not a BTS fan. I see you trying to redirect the conversation as if this is a BTS fandom thing.

Quote from Taemin-Identity

So what? This conflict is about land not about religion. Israel needs that land end of story.

I also said it is his choice, and he will either get criticised or praised. It is his choice to ruin his image or to not. But armys should not defend their faves like a cult if he did smth wrong.

Yes they are. But when Americans will be given alternatives they can start to use other platforms sites and brands. For now we don’t have that alternative so it can be available for everyone. But speaking for myself, my Samsung(Android) was produced in 2019, I didn’t buy new one. Also, I don’t eat any fast food, I don’t use Amazon, I don’t buy any coke or Pepsi. I admit that I bought my IPhone, because I needed it for my education, since my Samsung is pretty old. And I’m trying my best to boycott all those brands.

Also the difference is V is not only buying McDonalds but also sharing it with his 65m audience, basically supporting.

And about the boycott. The meaning of this boycott is to minimise the damage, and not about choosing the brand. And people are trying their best and are not publicly sharing to their 65m audience

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You don't use Amazon? You better check that. Amazon's AWS is the biggest cloud provider. Do you use netflix, twitch, linkedin, facebook, bbc, espn, adobe, twitter, etc?

Oh, right. Do you have Intel Pentium and Celeron computer processor chips in your computers? You better throw those out since they are produced in Israel.

Did you know spotify is pro-israel since some people claim they removed a pro-palestinian song? You better not listen to that.

Youtube? Owned by google. Better not use that either.

What about most of the generic drugs manufactured by Teva? Better not use that either.

People are being selective in what they boycott to minimize the discomfort that'll cause in their daily lives. If you get to be selective, why can't some South Korean do the same with McDonald or something else?

It is hypocrisy at the finest.

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It's not any different from trying to teach anyone overseas about these things. Their media is different from ours. You're not going to see their media talking about boycotts. They won't care as much as we do.

Their media isn't talking about the rest of the world 24/7 the way ours does. They're much more focused on what's happening in their own country as opposed to global affairs.

American media is different because the United States is expected to have a stance when it comes to just about any global conflict. We're expected to offer aid, military assistance, and all. Sometimes we're obligated to be involved even if we don't want to.

Other countries are just focusing on themselves, so it makes sense for their people to be oblivious.

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People forget how insulated East Asian countries are. If you are on the Korean side/feed of Insta/twitter/any social media that has algos recommending content, it is possible to not know much about what goes outside of the country.

I was watching a vid where little korean Kids didn't know who Billy Eilish was. I saw a vid where Japanese people didn't know who Kim K, Tom Cruise, Will Smith, etc are.

Quote from Taemin-Identity

Yes he isn’t obligated to pick a side or care, but it is called a sense of humanity. This war is not about religion. Also there are plenty of Christians and non- Muslim communities in Palestine. You think Muslims care about Taehyung except his Muslim fans? No never ever. But what he did is just act of ignorance, and promotion of genocide supporter McDonalds. He is not a random guy from the countryside. He has 65 million audience. If he didn’t care he shouldn’t have posted that photo of him eating McDonalds. He should’ve kept himself silent about that situation. If he picked a side then it is his choice and people and fans have the right to criticise him, or boycot him too.

This is disingenuous as hell. How big was the Christian population in Gaza before the war? Approximately 1k. 99 percent of Palestine is Muslim. I don't know why you would frame it like that.

He can do whatever he wants.

Isn't Amazon and google on the BDS list? Why the hell are you using sites hosted by AWS or google cloud?

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