Posts by Chemotter

Quote from Hiakuryu

This is interesting, do you have a source for this quote?

한매연 국장 "일방적 계약 해지+독자적 활동, 신뢰도 흩트리는 위험한 행위"

[스포티비뉴스=장진리 기자] 5개 대중음악단체가 일방적 전속계약 해지 통보에 대한 우려를 표했다. 한국매니지먼트연합(이하 한매연) 이남경 국장은 27일 JW메리어트 호텔 서울에서 열린 기자회견에서 “일방적인 전속계약 해지 선언과 그에 따른 독자적 활동은 매우 위험하다”라고 밝혔다.…

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You'll have to google translate it.

Ador is in a tough situation. Barring NJZ from participating in musical activities would be the final straw in breaking trust with the girls, and it is a losing move in court as daisy pointed out previous precedents.

My guess is you could drive a bus through some of the wordings in the contract and the only bite of consequence is the penalties.

The best Ador can do is put public pressure and try to cut off the funding through banning advertisement activities.

KMF director indirectly exposed the reality of NJZ's situation.

"The real issue lies in the contract's binding power...these clauses are too vague to objectively determine liability. This structure makes it difficult to hold artists accountable for breaches, leading to disputes where agencies are forced to defend themselves while artists take an offensive stance."

There isn't really a defined legal mechanism in the contract to make NJZ stay. Sure. There may be penalty, but that's going to take years to resolve. If the artists are big enough, they can get away with it.

My problem is the companies wield these contracts like an iron fist, but when the artists have enough power to wield it to their own advantage, they cry foul.

As everyone made it abundantly clear, artists aren't employees. They are allowed to use the contract to their advantage if they choose to do so.

It isn't the responsibility of the artists to think about the jobs that will be lost in Ador. They aren't owners of the company.

We've all wished for a longer version of Get Up. I hope we get a similar sound.

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Quote from Dreamer95

When did I become a Meovv fan?

We need someone to put on the sasquatch suit from the MV. You were volunteered. Welcome to the Meovv fan club.

Quote from 24magicintheair

I’m incredibly nosy tbh

I know the bigger idols are pulling in millions

But how much does like a mid tier idol get? Could they afford to buy a home?

Maybe like Itzy, gidle, are they all millionaires?

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The most Soyeon ever made a month was $700k, but she said it varies a lot. She is an outlier since she produces and writes songs. She gets the biggest cut.

Newjeans are an outlier too, but they had $3.7 million per member. They also do a lot of CF. Not sure if those figure is included but I read that a good chunk of CF deals go to the artists rather than the company.

Aespa got about $2.3 million per member.

For both groups, it is 2023 figures. I'm sure Aespa made much more in 24.

Also, the popular groups that re-up with their companies negotiate better contracts. That's why companies churn out new groups.

Failed idols are lucky to get out without debt.

Mid tier idols probably get nothing if there isn't sustained success.

If I had to make a guess on the available info:

1. Failed or not too popular idols - debt/receive nothing up to 100k
2. Somewhat Popular idols/Mid tier idols 100k to probably 300k
3. Popular idols 300k-million
4. Big 4/most popular 1-4 million range.

I love their voices. I'm just here for good music, and I hope this combo produces bops.

Quote from Popper-of-Ks

Except these aren't luxury goods, they're cheap pieces of plastic and some tacky clothing that was printed out for a few bucks.

Lot of the luxury goods are cheaply made plastic or clothes. The material doesn't matter. With all luxury goods, it is about outside perception and validation.

'If I wear this or hold up this big ass weapon of a wand, will other kpop fans know that I'm a ride or die Lisa fan?'

If the answer is yes, this is probably worth the money.

Volume =/= Profit.

This is how luxury goods work. You have to gatekeep, so there is a difference between the haves and the have nots. It differentiates the casual fans from the hardcore fans.

Less volume but higher prices == more profit margin.

All the luxury brands that went down the road of making 'cheaper' versions of itself eventually lost prestige and lost market share.

Would you rather sell 10 items to make the same profit as selling 2-3 items? There is a finite number of people that'll buy Lisa merch. Decreasing price won't make people buy more.

Quote from Kataphract

is it me or do I see a little bit of Jihyo in her too???

That's what I was thinking.

My initial instinct is to say tone, but after some thought, I think vocal technique. We are talking about Kpop idols that have demanding choreos. I've seen enough Hybe groups that sing out of their range and have intense choreo to know that vocal technique matters.

Quote from Slayurfaves

apparently this where is originated from

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Thank you. I hate the term more now.

Quote from monalisalove

So it's like someone taking others music as inspiration? But also used as copy?

I totally knew that.

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I don't see the problem. Kpop always put their own flavor onto Western sounds.

My problem is LSRFM is slowly losing the identity they built up. They had their own sound.

Then they started hard chasing industry trend. Easy Listening -> amapiano -> If I had to guess, Sabrina Carpenter inspired funky pop or maybe country pop.

Quote from monalisalove

The way I saw this sentence so many times on tt, but I still have no idea what it means in this case

Hello fellow geriatric. We can go reminisce about Big Bang and Wonder Girls.

Am I getting old? When did nachos become a thing?

Stop repurposing words.

I'm just glad we are leaving the Crazy era.

badguy acting up but i see attention lyrics.

I go~

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Let's be real.

The point is many people are wishing NJZ members get their comeuppance. It is a sentiment that I've seen on here, reddit and other social media platforms. Basically, NJZ members and MHJ should be buried in debt, penalties and legal fees. They deserve to be in unsurmountable debt for what they did to x, y and z. They can leave, but they have to 'pay'.

What do people/fans think the end result of such oppressive penalties will be? The brains of these fans are so warped by stan culture that they are wishing and hoping a conglomerate crushes a group of girls/artists.

Quote from DaisyTheGenuine

When life gives us lemons, make lemonade

Bandjeans (BJZ?) was superior anyway

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That Lollapalooza performance had me in a chokehold for a while. The band, the girls and most of all the crowd was insane.

Quote from selfmate

this isn't specific for NJZ specifically but I understand how certain rights holders may be able to prevent someone or some group from using or singing their songs in public

such as like IF I was anti-trump and trump tried to use my song at a rally or event I would be able to prevent that???

does that same theory hold with for example let's say ADOR specifically saying we are not allowing NJZ to perform the copyright songs?

From what I'm reading, there are different rules and procedures when politics are involved.

The problem comes if NJZ uses loud backing tracks, pre-recorded tracks, videos, names and images that are under Ador's copyright. However, the only barrier to a live performance is KOMCA's approval, not Ador.