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This comeback has been good to the fans.

RIIZE at Inkigayo:

Dance practice:

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using glitch as an excuse when your faves just cant sing, tsk tsk tsk

everybody knows that "overtime training" in SM are layman terms for "lip syncing practice"

Their trainers just gave them a manual on how to look convincing

oh yeah and of course, how could I forget?

they untalented too

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lol stop being bitter and enjoy RIIZE goodness

at Inkigayo

Congrats to NJs. That's a very nice Japanese debut. Truly impressive to fill it up like that.

Ok first time listening to her and I liked the song but I feel oddly like this could be a Taeyeon song or something. Maybe I'm imagining it.

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Honestly SM need to let them rest

I know they are rookies and they need to surf on it to build a fanbase and keep the public attention

But they really need to rest

They debuted in september 2023

And since their debut they fully promoted 5 songs in 6 months (get a guitar, talk saxy, love 119, impossible, boom boom bass)

Which means pratically 1 comeback every months

+ 1 full fanmeet tour

On the other side to compare with other artist of 4 th gen who are very active currently

Aespa had made a comeback only 2 times in the past 6 months ( drama + armaggedon album)

It practically means that for the past 6 months they didn't have any week of rest

They are probably the most overworked rookie in kpop i've ever seen

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Yes, they are overworked and it really makes me feel conflicted due to the reasons you stated.

I know why they do it, but seeing them dropping weight and looking tired and worn down made me feel a pinch in my semi-shriveled heart. That is why I am supporting them fully because we all know companies treat their idols better once they're more successful. And the foundation they build will bring them more opportunities too, for them all.

They were so happy with their MCountDown win and so humble. WonBin couldn't believe it; SongTaro were very nervous at first; SeungChan was getting emotional over their win; and Sohee was so happy.

I'm not boycotting. I'm just busy with real life and have limited bandwidth. Right now, that bandwidth is divided between NJs and RIIZE. Since RIIZE seems to need more attention, I'm just paying more attention to RIIZE. In general, I don't visit AKP that much.

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I think it was clearly just a bad day

Because today they sound much better, even taro sound pretty nice

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Yes, it was just a bad day for them as they showed the very next day with this performance. The guys sound good. But SM really is running them ragged with multiple events on the same day; some of them where they are performing live at events then they shuttle them to another event within an hour of the last event. Their scheduling leaves a lot to be desired.

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thats completely different 💀

we talking about a group who debuted directly from hybe, makes videos in the hybe building, associate with other hybe groups etc

like you can't compare lol

so yes, they'll be talked about

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lol what label are they debuting under?

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About

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Katseye is an American girl group formed through the reality show Dream Academy, a collaboration between Hybe Corporation and Geffen Records. The group consists of six members: Manon Bannerman, Sophia Laforteza, Daniela Avanzini, Lara Raj, Megan Skiendiel, and Yoonchae Jeong. Wikipedia

No, this does not sound like a kpop group nor is it a pure K entertainment produced group.

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cool...but shouldn't this be in like western entertainment instead of kpop.

I see your point. I mean not like Hybe America artist (former) like Justin Bieber can be classified as K pop.

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Honestly

Riize debuted as a pretty solid group

With sohee, wonbin and seughan carrying the vocal line

Losing seughan made them end up in a situation where some members like anton and Sungchan are taking role that they weren't necessarily destiny for

I can see that. SoHee, WonBin, and SeungHan did make a good lineup and yes I agree that line distribution this time on BBB left a lot to be desired. I would think they could have distributed some of the SC rap part to Shotaru and divided up the singing more between the vocal SH and WB more. But seriously, they need to stop making WB run all over the stage for their choreograph. From this song to even other songs that they have, they have him moving from one side to other and pretty much covering the stage to help the dance formation of the group which probably tires out the guy fast if they had to redo those takes multiple times like they do on music shows.

For Sohee's part, I noticed they make an effort to provide decent setup so he's not ragged from the dancing. Overall, this is a solid group. But last boy group that I will stan period. Too much drama with boy groups.

I just watched their live encore on MCountDown today and they were much better.

SM just needs to make sure not to schedule too many events for them on the same day. Yesterday's performance on that music show was on the same day as other events like NME, where they performed several of their songs on stage. Poor Anton even slipped on that stage since it was slippery.

Too bad I have a meeting soon so I can't search and post those clips.

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Just highlights no one cares about the singing, except a very small vocal minority.

They still making bank, selling heaps of albums and have a lot of CFs.

lol hi there

No, they do care. Otherwise, idols who cannot sing would not get whacked by Knetz whenever there is an issue with their inability to sing. But even good singers can have mediocre/bad days when their conditions are bad.

Plug in for their song One Kiss that Byun WooSuk recommended One Kiss:

lmao might as well use this opportunity to get some visibility for them here on AK

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Sohee can't carry this group on his own. Eunseok sounded decent. Anton was struggling a bit. I'm not sure what to make of Wonbin. Shotaro and Sungchan are not singers lol. They're the dancers/idol rappers.

Usually Sohee along with WonBin carries the vocals from what I saw on their other live singing for their other songs. Unfortunately for them, this was a bad night for them. WonBin's start would have been much better if he skipped out on greetings (edit: singing and in between greeting people). Everyone was off that night.

While we're on the subject of singing, let me plug in their Shinee Replay cover:

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It's not rising

It lost 43 spot in 2hours

And was out of the top 100 the next update

They went through a real downfall in the chart

Interesting. Could be because Knetz were calling them out early and could also be due to other things happening at Hybe. But Hybe really really seems to like SM Like I think they may have a fixation with SM groups

well, I did not realize this was such a serious topic. Well for me it's a hobby but I did notice some people on social media who may fall into the latter category. Whatever the case, I think this was an interesting topic that could be used to explore the music culture, not just in kpop but also in western culture too because there were also the BackStreet Boys, NSync, and other groups with groupies.

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I think this is a song problem more than vocal talent lol. Their specially failing at is the higher part in each verse. Goes from deep tone to high tone and they seem to sing awkwardly for the high tone.

But Shotaro, homie, he's giving Giselle vibes which suck, because he was already promoting before Riize. He was also social media casted as a dancer, but that's really no excuse.

Besides that, they just don't look like they are having fun. Maybe after a few more years, they will not care so much and be better performers

Isn't it a case of him being a rapper more than being a singer?

Could be that their condition is not that great right now. I just started following RIIZE not that long ago, but even I noticed that their schedule is jam-packed—so much so that they're running these guys ragged. I mean, I could literally see from photos and videos some of the members losing weight like crazy and looking tired.

Fans on X also said that some of the guys were not feeling well during the precording and that they were doing their best but that it was obvious that they were running low on stam.

It is due to their condition. They're all tired as hell. This is them coming back from traveling to another country just before their comeback from a fan conference and having endless schedule every day.

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I've seen these guys do live before and they do fine. SM just needs to let them get some rest in between their schedules.

Both WonBin, Shotaro supposedly have issues. SM is sending them to event after event with no recovery time and their choreograph is not light either.

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Even good singers in bad condition cannot perform like they typically do

All of them have lost weight and look downright tired

Actually, based on the hearts and just the general K public awareness, it does surprise me how fast they are climbing. Compare their rise to Red Velvet and even New Jeans. I do think there is grounds for suspicion.

RIIZE at HalMyungSoo

I loved them at HalMyungSoo. Never seen them so relaxed before

Wow. Just noticed other RIIZE's releases that are not posted here:

Impossible MV:

Impossible performance: