lol I'll check out their performances
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Actually, it can. She was referencing when their debut was put on backburner after Hybe promised NJs that they would be the next girl group to debut. That is when she said how to explain this to parents and Hybe CEO said what he said about not talking with the parents.
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Also, it seems like they have been pretty much being taking that attitude with the parents and leaving MHJ to take care of it. MHJ then stood up for NJs by going on Yoo's show and dispeling the falsehood that Hybe was spreading that LS that it was MJH's new gg. This is her one way that she stood up for the girls. This way at least people knew there was another girl group and the current ones being advertised are not it.
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lol Her contract period ends in 2026 sometime. NJs is a different story. She would have had to take Hybe to court over that 20% stock and that 5% clause on her stocks eventually if things didn't work out. Now I'm starting to believe that conspiracy that Hybe planned MHJ's downfall all along but it just didn't turn out the way they thought and wanted it to - like 50/50.
I do wonder how Bang made BTS into the success they are today. I wonder if he just got lucky with bunch of talented boys who worked incredibly hard to get to where they are. I mean his business dealings so far leaves a lot to be desired, from his choice of CEO to his handling of MHJ. Their handling negotiations with MHJ and how they took what was internal into this mess. I wish the members of BTS the best and hope that if they are being treated right within Hybe.
Their most stand out song that I found in their discography for me was I Need You Girl. I think it will be my favorite song from them.
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To me it doesn't seem mhj and hybe can work together, it will just be a tense environment until someone contract run up (probably in other 5 years)
Add to that the public opinion will always be over it, instigating if smth bad happen. Who can even work with that kind of cloud over u?
In that case her leaving make sense now, but it also seems she wants to take nj with her which doesn't seem legally possible
Her contract ends in 2026. If you read the article that is being referenced, the crux of it is that Hybe wanted MHJ to stay and extra 5 years but not pay her more for staying those extra 5 years. lmao Hybe wants her brains and talent but is not willing to pay extra for it if that Naver article is right.
Sorry but right now Hybe is coming off more and more like a greedy big corp.
But you are right in that they could have worked together longer if Hybe handled this situation correctly and not made this into a public fight.
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There is no statement...you all really are grasping so hard at straws for her to stay back at Hybe...read this...it has been modified from misunderstanding and not to misunderstanding.
This is the qoo link which says even in title that the article writer changed the wording not Hybe, who have not released any new statement. And it was changed from the word misunderstanding to judgement.
https://theqoo.net/hot/3206328206?page=2
and this is the OG Naver link of the aforementioned article
I will loosely summarize what the article said:
Hybe: MHJ was greedy and asked for better financial terms.
Ador: Asked for relaxation of noncompete clause (Basically it would mean MHJ could never compete or do work that competes against Hybe if she left the company because they have her 5% tied up in such a way she can not sell unless Hybe chooses to buy it. She basically wanted this clause removed so that she can sell it without that clause. As long as she could not get rid of those 5%, she cannot work/"compete" against Hybe).
Hybe counteroffered by saying if you want that, you need to extend your contract to stay with the company for another 5 years (like mandatory tenure) whereas her original contract would end in 2026. Min's side countered that if they are going to make her stay pretty much until almost her retirement (remember Koreans retire much earlier) then they should increase the price. Hybe refused. This ended up with Hybe saying that Min's side was being greedy.
There also seems to be a dispute where Hybe wants to claim that full 20% are all put options and Ador claims there is no such clause. Hence this leading (refusal of tenure) to Hybe concluding that MHJ was conspiring to usurp management rights and being greedy.
I do not know what was previously said but realistically, what I read personally in that article is much worse for Hybe than what was previously being floated around.
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You can read the qoo reaction but it is overwhelming on her side. Seriously, after reading this article I don't think MHJ was being unreasonable in what she was asking for. Hybe seriously is not good at business and seems like they are the ones being greedy trying to claim that all 20% of MHJ's shares are under put option. I was ready to give Hybe benefit of the doubt but this article pretty much wipes more than half of that away.
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we'll see.There might still be a lawsuit incoming.
Pretty sure they'll keep the lawsuit but the chances that they are in negotiations is pretty high from the indications I'm seeing. Since qoo noted that the naver articles was edited in real time I would say Hybe might have been exaggerating/overblown about the "evidence" they had. Naver articles do not correct statements without directions/good reason. Highly likely lawyers are talking and maybe they were threatened with slander and they backed down due to what evidence (or lack of) they have at hand. Pure speculation that last part.
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It is from qoo where they have a link to the naver article that was getting edited in real time
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External Content x.comContent embedded from external sources will not be displayed without your consent.Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy.lmao... they were talking so tough. Was it all a media play to incite the fans to attack NJs and MHJ, so MHJ will resign and be consigned to the dungeons?
For this to happen, makes me wonder if there really is some truths to Bang being in a a cult and if MHJ has more/bigger things to spill if this continues.
By the way, quick clarification. That person meant it went from judgement and now the naver article is edited down to misunderstanding.
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Not sure about NJ contract matters but that thread that said Hybe's case against MHJ is weak if what they shared is all they have seems to be spot on. You can check on it yourself but on twit/X, there is a talk about a qoo thread where they note that Hybe Naver article about MHJ is getting edited in real time from judgement now down to misunderstanding. So the gist of it now is that it was a misunderstanding.
Lmao I really thought maybe MHJ might lose since Hybe was coming out swinging but looks like I overestimated them. MHJ must have a lot in her arsenal still for this to be happening.
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This could be true
This could be false
Could be something in the middle.
The one thing I'm wondering is, do we know for a fact that this is a MHJ play?
Like on a Macro scale MHJ's only real enemy is Hybe
But on a Macro scale, Hybe has MANY MANY more enemies than MHJ
I think likely not MHJ since this rumor was around before this all started and it just got reignited now
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Reading Korean twits, basically Hybe promotes those who fall in line when told to do something to follow/support this cult.
That screencap someone shared where MHJ and Hybe CEO were talking about OMG video getting hijacked and held hostage during her press conference was supposedly because the video exposed the cult. Go see OMG video and check out the comment section. They have some twits also showing LS and the new group Illit supposedly/maybe being used to convey the cult's message. It is wild. Evidently this accusation is not a new one but it has been quietly simmering because people have been ignoring this allegation but it seems like that tides has changed. It is getting more attention from the public and others are showing up with supporting material.
Also, there was a twit that shared screencap about someone (maybe from that cult) talking about those idols needing more training. Looking at the screencap, it did not mention any specific group/people but there was implications that this is what MHJ was trying to protect NJs from and why she wanted out of Hybe.
It was wild reading some of those twits. The thing that quite frightened me was the suggestion that the reason why MHJ mentioned she would not commit suicide so publicly was not because she had suicidal tendencies but because she wanted it out there in public that if she's found dead it won't be her offing herself but someone else doing it.
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To answer your question:
Evidently this cult has an online university or something and BTS had a video showing support for them from their earlier career.
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Wait a week then choose
Bang fandom - aka supporters of the rich guy that dates younger models.
vs.
MHJ fandom - aka supporters of the "minji was prettier when she was younger" girl lover.
Lol let me correct one thing for you.
Bang team - bunch of misogynistic, sexist men with Hybe CEO who previously led a game to be discontinued within less than 5 months for making it so extremely degrading/sexual that it got discontinued. Copying and pasting:
Just in case it is too much for minors:
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No what she said was that Hybe copied the formula for NJs. Basically it was the pictorials, hiring same makeup artist and hair stylist, same styling, having the same sequence of dance moves without asking for permission, same debut type of event, almost the same type of pictorials, etc. It was not for just one thing. I can honestly understand why she felt the way she did. To be frank, when I started looking at NJs material and came across Illit I really thought it was NJs at first glance and I am not the only one. I was browsing with someone else and they also said the same thing. The person asked me why does this group have two names and it made me laugh.
Also, most music nowadays is recycling of old music. There really is very little "new" things even in western music. If you go back far enough, you can even say Japanese music was likely influenced by Chinese music and so on. It's a slippery road. Even western world has it's own shares of homages/inspirations.
But what Hybe did with Illit is not the same thing as these inspirations. It's like they had a math equation they had to solve and they solved it exactly the same way as someone else (MHJ).
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I don't see any mention of tattoo in that twit. At a quick glance it says he contacted her via FB wanting to discuss about boy's sexiness concept because he did not get it. She claims to have come up with the album name, concept, and evidently the other person had similar pictorial concepts taken with a photographer she previously worked with. (edit: the implication being that he used her ideas)
Nowhere in those twits are there any mention of tattoos. Unless there is more, the ones you are showing has zero mention of tattoo.
edit: She also mentioned that that guy used her words verbatim in an interview
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I think these experts are right. Plus no big company who is at an advantage does the type of media play that Hybe did. When you have a good case and you think you can win, you handle everything behind the scenes and keep negative publicity away from your branding. One of the reasons why companies pay out lawsuits that are nonsense - because they know it will cost them more to take it through the court.
Having thoughts and exploring options is not a crime. No harm, no foul. Seriously, if we look at facts, it was actually Hybe who caused itself harm by taking it all to the public court of opinions and the public has decided. To me, it looks like Hybe just wants to drag this out with a lawsuit if they cannot oust her so it ties up Ador/MHJ. Would not surprise me if all of this really caused by BSH being jealous of MHJ's success at creating a gg and being more successful at it.
In any case, thanks Hybe for bringing NJs to my attention. Just bought their Bubble Gum song on iTune.
Going to go explore more of their discography.
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You would not want any females under Hybe while HYBE CEO is the current one. Go search for hybe-ceo-past-controversy-sexualizing-characters-game-female.
I would certainly not trust minors to be managed by a management team whose main concern/focus is about making a quick buck. One of the main reasons why I can understand MHJ being against Hybe management having control of NJs/her girl group.
Yes, it's the CEO but CEO does set the tone and those under him likely will be of the same ilk and focus on the same things.
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Well let me say all of this dragged me back into the kpop world and into checking out New Jeans (what a talented bunch of sweeties). Wishing NJs much success.
It was a complete fiasco by Hybe the way they handled it. Hybe did not have to make this all so public. They brought this upon themselves. If they didn't pick this fight with MHJ, none of the in fighting would have been publicized and their slave contract w/ MHJ would still have remained a secret. The ones who will be most negatively impacted will be LS, especially with now Source Music jumping into the fray with lawsuit. People are dragging their Coachella and other things back into the limelight. Not just LS, Illit is also not being looked at kindly. Netz are/will dig and find more things and not in LS or Illit's favor.
Also, after reading Korean sources directly and bypassing any international translations, I can see why the public is on MHJ's side. You can see a lot more info than what is being translated if you do. Surprisingly, Netizenbzz for once had the best pulse on Korean sentiments first/earlier than other translation sites. Plus Hybe did too much misinformation/gaslighting with their media play with too many allegations that were flimsy and not credible. It was so plain to they were trying to use the fans (and it evidently worked (at least internationally) in this public war) and negatively frame her as some crazy lady with delusions.
But seriously, CEO management team leaves a lot to be desired. Hybe CEO is creepy. I certainly would not feel reassured if I had a daughter under this guy.
Go look for story about hybe-ceo-past-controversy-sexualizing-characters-game-female
