Posts by SerendipitousYun
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It's far better than Debut, but it's too short in my opinion. A bridge would've really elevated the song. Also, I wish we got more of Sophia singing, she has the best voice by far (along with Lara) and her part is so pleasing to the ear
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I'm not actually that surprised considering the top comment on another eddit post was "how to speed run murdering your career". And yet, somehow that's pretty tame compared to twitter. They're getting called arrogant, ungrateful and liars and the posts have 20k+ likes and I'm just wondering if this is the twilight zone.
Like yea maybe you don't like MHJ (I certainly don't), but to see a cry for help from girls not even 3 years into their career and dismiss it as them being arrogant, is something that even the word apathy envies.
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I actually agree that NWJS members shouldn't have involved themselves to this degree, but on the other side I also understand why they felt the need to get involved and I also understand that these are impressionable young girls.
I agree, but I also think it's more that they had no choice but to become more centrally involved at this point. If they'd been silent the entire time, then I'd be of the opinion that the steps they're taking right now are too extreme too fast (though even that is questionable, considering they've allegedly had medical records leaked, and I'd be on a path to raze Hybe to the ground if that were me), but they pretty much took a very strong and clear stance early on. So, even if they wanted to draw back now, they've put themselves in a place where they either have to take a stance against hybe or with hybe, and the choice is obvious based on the allegations they're lobbing against Hybe currently.
edit: this is not to say it's their fault btw. It's more so like the spot they're in as far as options they have available to deal with mistreatment is a result of both their actions and the overall circumstances
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Good grief these girls cannot catch a break it seems. I do wonder what will happen on the 25th when Hybe doesn't reinstate MHJ (b/c I don't actually see them listening to that demand), but aside from that I can't say the chain of events we're seeing is particularly surprising when I think of everything that's come out since the start of this entire debacle.
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it seems to me that you all are pretty obtuse, yeah, we are going to crete a made up scenario where the woman is afraid of getting physically punished because there are stories where a man hit a woman on the head because she said not, EVEN IF THIS IS NOT THE FUCKING CASE.
" PoWeR ImBaLaNce" and who gave him the power of taking decisions over your actions?....the supossed fear that she had of getting hit on the head even if he did not show any physical force over her? or it was because of what you stated in your last paragraph? the power imbalance comes from knowing that you are famous and that you couldd get away with things just because of that, listen to me , if you idolize someone to the point of agreeing with whatever he is asking you, even if you dont like but because he is a celebrity , you cant miss the chance and he takes advantage of that to ask you to do things because he knows that you are going to accept...
get it in you head, HE IS AN ASSHOLE AND YOU ARE PART OF THE FUKING PROBLEM, because you put your morals in sale, i dont like this but depends on who is asking....
dont come at me with the antiquated narrative bullshit, you are just proving my point, women taking conscious actions, i dont want it but he is famous , YOU ARE THE ONE GIVING HIM THE POWER TO RULE OVER YOU, IT'S YOU DECISION, and what you all doing is exactly what you are saying that you dont do , considering that women are incapable of being culpable.... they are not culpable, but they are responsible of their decisions and actions
That wasn't a made up scenario. I'm certainly not so apathetic as to create made up situations iabout violence against women, that's a weird thing to assume honestly. It was an example, and the hammer one was actually just the first one that came to mind. There's another one in new york where this young man asked a woman for her number, she said no, and he swung his skateboard at her head. There's one with a brick too (if you look up woman hit by brick on tik tok you may find it tbh), but if I think of every single situation where a man has been violent towards a woman for saying no to a seemingly innocuous request (b/c asking for a number/on a date really isn't an immediately ditressing situation on it's own), I'd have like 10 pages of examples. It was to provide insight about why the fear may be there though I guess that went over your head.
Anyways I'm really not going get into it with someone who uses apologist arguments (it's like arguing with Harvey Weinstein defenders all over again), so I'll end it here.
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as a woman , i totally hate people who portrays women as weak beings at the mercy of men desires....this is not feminism.
if nobody used PHYSICAL power over you, threats, blackmailing or put you on drugs to get what they wanted, nobody is assaulting you, stop excusing and justifying women poor decisions like if they were mentally disabled.
Somebody asked you to do something that you know that is wrong and you dont like, you are conscious and in your 5 senses to make logical decisions, you could decline and leave , instead you decide to succumb to his desires, then you are part of the problem too.
if for you all , women empowerment is babycrying after THEY decided to do whatever the man asked instead of owning your bad decisions in life , god save us....
Are you like 16 or something? Did you suddenly discover tumblr and feminism a few months ago or something? Have you never had a man attempt to cross you boundaries and felt afraid? Or are you just so She-Ra that saying no always works and you've never seen those videos of a woman saying no and the man hitting her in the head with a hammer he pulls out of seemingly thin air.
Have you ever actually done any research into sexual crimes? Have you ever talked to victims of said crimes? B/c not only have I done so, at one point I was working with victims in my short time volunteering for a domestic violence center (Ihad to stop when i almost started smoking from the stress of it all) and let me help you out with some insight you either don't have or refuse to ackowledge. A man does not always threaten you, get physical, or use blackmail right away. A lot of sexual crimes are covert and a lot of violence involved in sexual crimes only comes AFTER the no is said. A lot of times the yes is said to avoid the know and that's true for BOTH genders. You're looking at this through the lens of someone niave who has no real world experience with these situations or crimes and thinks everything can be strong-holded or talked about. Yes they could've said no, but they may have also felt like they couldn't due to the power imbalance that is very clearly there. You are either being facetious or not actually a feminist if you think "just say no" is a valid argument in this case and both are frankly, sickening.
You have this singular overly antiquated, non-nuanced, fnon-intersectional view of feminism where you think this is a matter of us thinking women are incapable of being culpable when that's not the case. No one said that. But the truth of the matter is that for many, if there's a chance to sleep with a celebrity that they deeply idolize, and then they suddenly go "can we not use condoms?" they are likely to agree and what's more the man KNOWS they are likely to agree. By your logic, all the women Harvey Weinstein coerced were guilty too.
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The girl was allegedly 12 years old..... I feel sick...
The police chief stated "This investigation is not related to an investigation into sexual crimes against minors of the same gender [as him]" so that might be heresay tbh
edit: although the wording is very weird honestly. I cannot tell if they're stating that there's no minors involved or stating that they're no boy minors involved
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did he threat them to have sex or put some drug on them ? if not, the girls should be blamed too
it's that easy as saying " i am not interested in that" , " i dont do that" , " i dont want that"
but it's so cool to have sex with a celebrity right? we can complain afterwards and say whatever.
people who excuse adult women with conscious decisions about what they do or not like they are some poor naive chldren who dont know what they are doing are the same than the ones who excuse men with trashy behaviours.
he can ask whatever he wants, it's up to you if you decide to do it or not, if you dont want it and there is a chance to decline and leave but you stay anyways, sorry, you are not innocent either.
Found Taeil's burner account ya'll
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This is my pessimistic mind at work, but when they only gave JJY 5 years for his involvement in BS and then after being released, he wasn't even required to put his info in the sex offender registry. With that as a precedent, I don't think Taeil will be given a harsh sentence unless there's an intense surge of outrage.
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SM never take things this extreme! My goodness, I have only heard them defend or hiatus problematic idols, a straight-up disposal of a member is a rare occurrence from them, my respect, a criminal should not get any leniency.
News station probably going to pick up the case soon though, but mighty SM is a step further, solidifying their media control power for everyone to observe.
Now what did this flop done that it became an extreme of a case.
I agree, they tend to avoid kicking a member out if they can. That being said, they only kicked him out of NCT, they still have yet to terminate his contract (maybe to avoid paying severance).
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Why would that be surprising?
MHJ was just removed as the CEO of ADOR. This would clearly be the most active thread on the forum lol
ah ok, that makes more sense. I wasn't paying much attention to any kpop related news so I just saw the thread and was like "what could we still possibly have to say"
It's an unsurprising result tbh.
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I'm honestly surprised this thread is still alive
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I'm bored at work and did the math b/c I wanted to know how many drinks he'd had to have had to get to 0.227% so I'll share it here.
If we go based on his official weight and the information from this infographic from Notre Dame, he had 6.7 drinks (more if he weighs over 134). A drink is a beer (12 oz/350mL), a glass of wine (4-5 oz/116-148mL), or a shot (1.5 oz/45mL) of 80 proof alcohol. You have to do some math for Soju, but one 375 mL bottle of a 20% ABV soju will contain ~4.5 drinks (~75mL of ethanol). So, 6.7 drinks are around 1.675 bottles of soju. That sounds insignificant, but that's the equivalent of almost 10 oz of vodka/tequila/hennesy/etc. This is like chugging almost half of a 750mL vodka bottle.
Just in case someone asks: the ability to hold your liquor means nothing where bal is concerned. You can be a seasoned drink where it takes more drinks to feel drunk, and your bal after one drink is going to be the same as it would be after one drink when you first started drinking. If anything, feeling like you need more to be drunk is a sign of physiological dependency.
edit: to the person arguing about speeds, .227 is a couple drinks away from acute alcohol poisoning (0.3%). The range for a sloppy drunk is 0.16-0.19 and he was past that. At .227%, you shouldn't even be riding a mechanical bicycle
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Imo, we won't really know how much of a good decision it is until a few comebacks in, tbh. Cupid's success was kind of a lightning in a bottle situation and heavily dependent on the English version of the song as well. So much time has passed that it's hard to say if they'll even have much success moving forward (though I'm sure with Keena still there some of the fans will support). Plus, it's unlikely she had many options. For all we know, this may have been the best offer she got (and I'm sure her large popularity internationally helped with that tbh). If they really want to support her, they'll have to get over it as I doubt she will be able to debut ever if she leaves this group.
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All these "jokes" about NewJeans getting ditched when they turn 25 meanwhile Bangprio has quite literally never been seen with a woman over that age
He's Korea's version of Leonardo Dicaprio, they just haven't figured it out yet.
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ok, I finally read pages 17-24. Belift filing a lawsuit against MHJ is interesting. I have to say that one sublabel suing the CEO of another is MESSY, that little family persona they likely wanted is crumbling (assuming it hasn't been a pile of dust since this started). The timing is terrible (maybe on purpose? who knows)
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Now this is some real talk. When I first entered corporate America, I was a front line, bottom rung rank and file employee, and I put in work to distinguish myself, take on less monotonous tasks and fast track my career path so that I could do work that didn't make me want to hand in my 2 weeks.
The top performers getting preferential treatment is one of the most ordinary aspects of life in a big company. I'm literally able to go back and forth in this thread while getting paid because of said privilege
But I put in the WORK (smart not hard of course)
So it's odd every time I see people try to drag NJ, MHJ and ADOR for wanting special treatment. They SHOULD. Outside of BTS, NewJeans is by far the most successful group in Hybe with unbelievable results in record time.
If you had those kind of results in your company, you'd expect to be treated like royalty too. And if you didn't get that treatment? Guess what top talents do? THEY LEAVE.
This is just so typical in the corporate world but people act like it's such an unfathomable concept.
Corporate life is HELL right out of school and it makes you want to quit until you realize every job is like this until you rise in ranks. I'm glad those days are behind me (glad they're behind you too).
Yeah, I haven't understood the argument that they're wrong for wanting special treatment. When you have good employees you treat them well so they stay, and New Jeans is beyond performing well. If you had an employee making you millions, you'd probably buy them a car if they wanted one and pay the gift taxes for them too.
But this is essentially looking at your best employee and going "Hey I'm going to have you take unpaid leave for 18 months. Some of your work in the next 18 months may go to this new employee who seems promising but doesn't necessarily have the same trajectory as you. Oh, and you may end up not come back to the same success due to the time you're taking off, but you don't get to come back earlier. Sorry . Don't worry though, we still value you!"
I'd be gone faster than meatballs at a baby shower.