Posts by uwuwu-98

Am I the only one who thinks something is coming sooner than expected? When they first announced the perf. the 23rd I (and most people) assumed they were going to perform the song the 23rd and later start the promotion of the redebut probably for April, something similar to what they did performing ETA in their first fanmeeting before the Get up teasers started.

However they started to tease the song now? It's not even hints or pics, but the music itself. There's still 3 weeks left for the performance, so it would surprise me a lot if they start teasing the song to release it in 5 or 6 weeks.

I think there're several options. They might release some "intro" like New Jeans (the song) before the actual comeback and that could be the song they're teasing now. Maybe they'll release the song right the same or next day of the performance. Maybe they'll release a MV like they did with Bubble gum before they start with the actual promotion period... But at this point it's obvious they're planning something different. They've always done everything in a unique way after all.

Dynamite left the top 100 Melon daily chart. It will probably return, if not soon, when BTS comebacks. Anyway it left the 4th longest streak ever.

Same day Hype boy surpassed Love dive's days as the longest charting gg song in this same top 100. People don't keep track of the daily chart but ig we'll soon start seeing Twitter accounts talking about the weekly Melon/Circle charts record. Regarding female artists in general (just female artists, exclusing a collab and AKMU), it's 3rd just below 2002 and Blueming, it would become the longest charting female artist song in May.

I wonder if MMA will count the prereleases for G-Dragon's album in the AlOTY daesang. The rollout was a bit weird and the versions of the songs with the streams aren't included in the Melon page of the album and they still show up like singles. For example Celebrity was included in Lilac when the album was released, this seems more like a HYLT or Dynamite situation.

People complaining about NJ's sound have always sound quite funny to me. It's true that they've this sound that everybody relates to them obviously, and that sound is the one that had the most success, in this case we all relate this teaser with Super Shy. But it's not like if they only have one sound? Yes that one is the most succesful but Get up literally had 3 title tracks and they were Super Shy, ETA and Cool with you, 3 completely different concepts and kind of songs. It's obvious they're going to continue doing the same, this teaser could be for the first track released like Super Shy but the title or other tracks are probably going to be different and obviously related with the new darker concept they've been showing in the complexcon teasers.

This overreaction over a few secs teaser just shows who wants to hate on them for anything.

11 years... I feel a bit old lmao

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so each members have their own animals now ?

They've always had them, they just didn't use it in any "official" content.

Well I woke up today a bit worried about all the mediaplay I expected them to do in that conference, but it turned out to be a ridiculous show to recognize NJZ are right and the contract is not valid anymore, and then we even got teasers of the redebut. To be a NJZ hater must be so hard... at least they can continue living in their own world thinking they ruined their career while the girls keep being as succesful as always if not more, acticipating. So happy right now!

Hype boy is probably catchier, easier to listen to and that's why it has that crazy longevity, but to me Ditto is one of those "perfect" songs. The composition is perfect, the lyrics are cute enough but not too cheesy with some memorable parts, the vibe is emotional, the MV and the era itself are deep and meaningful... It's one of those 4 or 5 songs I'd say they're one of my fav songs ever depending on the mood. I like it more now than before and I have the feeling the older I'll get the more I'll like it, It's the idea behind the song after all, the nostalgia.

Well MHJ explained it perfectly when talking about Belift plagirizing them. It's ok to be inspired on other groups like everybody has always been, but once Hybe themselves copied their own group everybody was going to do it. Some groups copy the aesthetics, some others the album designs, some others marketing like the website, some others the promotion strategy... It's undeniable at this point and it's exhausting.

This is bad for the groups who will receive undeserved hate because of their incompetent staff, bad for the fans that will be involved in fanwars since day 1, and bad for Kpop as a whole because they're killing creativity and just copying the strategy that worked the best in the last years, but no one really bothers to try something new.

I insist I hope the group doesn't receive hate but the company who is behind all this, but it would be appreciated if the kpop community could start to acknowledge that bunnies were right when all this issue started last year.

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is mhj still managing them? is she still involved like in the recent magazine photoshoot and that new logo motion of NJZ?

We don't know yet, they're hiding everything as much as they can, but it seems really likely.

They aligned the Instagram with the new updates (from the 3rd row to the 7th it's the only "official group updates" we got), so it seems really likely we'll get some big update, maybe a teaser.

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Patrik is the perfect representation of the "as a law student" twitter haters in the forum.

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... but the LSF comeback was confirmed last year I like me some NJZ but this is reaching

Tatiana goes too far sometimes, but she's not completely wrong here.

Bunnies are not complaining about LSFM having a march comeback, they're complaining about them announcing it right ONE HOUR after NJZ announced the redebut. Do you think it was a coincidence? You know it's not.

They obviously tried to make conflict among the fandoms, they knew some bunnies were gonna jump, they knew fearnots were going to defend Hybe... The tactics we've been seeing for a year.

Fearnots should be the first ones mad at Hybe for using LSFM in this way but sadly a big part of the fandom have chosen to side with Hybe always.

The visa issue must be one of the funniest episodes of all this mess. We've seen people that were supposed to be unbiased and "just hated MHJ" being directly racist and wishing Hanni to be deported, something that was never going to happen obviously. How it was mentioned in today's national assembly right before they made the big announcement also shows the current status of NJZ and Hanni in Korea right now, nothing to be worried about.

They sold out their Complexcon day almost instantly, the demand is crazy right now. I'm really curious about the rollout of the redebut because the anticipation is insane.

In Korea they're going to be as fine as always. They might not release hits as big as Hype boy or Ditto for the simple reason they were too big to replicate, it's like asking SNSD release more Gees or Twice more Cheer ups, but they're still probably the group with the most public support and one of the really few artists that will be able to release several hits together in their project regularly.

Internationally I have more doubts though. What they were doing in 2022-2023 was basically breaking a barrier that only BTS and BP broke before, and all this mess happening right when they were still in the rise might have affected them. They've also a lot of Hybe stans against them that, like it or not, are a big part of western Kpop listeners, so I don't think they can replicate OMG/Ditto/Get up numbers unless some song become viral or they really nail all their following steps. They should still be able to perform like the rest of top 4th gen ggs though.

Here we were worried about them having to choose something too different from NJ just for them to put a Z at the end LMAO.

Also a big slap in the face to all the people saying they were not going to comeback in a long time and how their career was finished. I said it in the megathread yesterday, I was sure they weren't going to wait for the trial results... But it seems they're not even going to wait for the trial to happen hahaha.

Can't wait to see what's next, I'm so so hyped now.

I wonder what the hints of the girls are. Maybe they've decided the name?

It's quite funny we got the dates today and they're just hinting something and acting like always lmao, they don't seem bothered at all. I wonder what their next important step is going to be though, because I really doubt they're going to wait until the results of the trial are out.

HSH seemed to have chances to challenge Ditto and Supernova's numbers, but even if it resists Ive's promotions and Jisoo's comeback it will be blocked by G-Dragon himself lmao. I wonder what numbers he can make with the title, IU in a similar situation didn't manage to hit 400k, but it was the start of the rise in the ULs we saw last year. I've the feeling we can see something similar, March-April will probably be a good moment for comebacks regarding ULs.

Like Disevidende said, there're less people using streaming services now. We can see it with circle points, but the most obvious thing is the Melon ULs, which is literally the number of people listening songs in the last 24h, and they're less than the half than what it used to.

I personally don't think it's that people moved from Melon to other streaming services (apart from Youtube which is a fact), because we can see songs reach the 100M streams certification when they reach a similar amount of Melon streams than what they needed in the past, so my most logic explanation is that the music consumption and free time habits have changed in general. For example Tiktok, you can't listen to music while you're using Tiktok, you need to listen to it and, in many cases, you listen to the music there and you find the new music there. We can't see that in the streaming charts, maybe we can see it somewhere in places like the Circle social chart but it's more complicated to measure.

The decrease of different #1s in a year is because of 2 reasons:

1. The drop of downloads and rise of streaming. Downloads obviously just reflect its impact in the short run unlike streaming. Prior to 2012 the digital market was completely dominated by downloads, which translated in songs having a super short run in the charts. In 2013 there was a price change in downloads which made them drop, streaming started to rise, but the digital market was still in the rise, so downloads were still really relevant and even rose after the initial drop of 2013, repeaking around 2017-2018. In late 2019 it started to be noticeable the download market was decreasing a lot (Gaon/Circle hide it but we could see it through the certifications), streaming started dominating everything to the point downloads are almost irrelevant nowadays.

2. The system change of the charts in 2020. Summarized, they changed realtime charts with 24h charts, making it way more difficult for new songs to chart high. For some reason koreans seem to focus their streaming habits on charts a lot, so this caused a lot of artists that were guaranteed hitmakers thanks to people noticing about their songs through the charts directly disappear. Now promotions are way more important, that's why only we see few non idol artists topping the charts nowadays.

I didn't expect this to be this long, sorry lmao.

Regarding the topic, honestly the charts and the streaming habits of Korea change that much that I don't think we can measure something like competition with numbers. Also, Kpop dominates the charts now since 2022 I'd say, and it did during the 2nd gen (when Kpop probably peaked in Korea), but the truth is that during the 3rd gen most of the biggest hits of Korea were coming from soloists and non idols. Half or maybe more of those #1s during 2015-2020 are probably not idols, with some cases like 2019 when we didn't have any group song topping the charts until Psycho did in December. The korean charts are a representation of the korean public, not of Kpop.

After all this boring essay... IMO the most competitive year was 2017, like I said I don't think we can measure it just with numbers, it's just my feeling as someone who has been checking the charts for longer and more frequently than I'd like to recognize lmao.

This is just the top 100 chart, it's a mix between the realtime chart and the 24h chart. They were really high because the fandom was streaming a lot and it was night in Korea, but in the 24h and daily/weekly chart they're going to be way lower. Nothing relevant or too surprising apart from a lot of fandom streaming.