Posts by Believer50

Quote from penguinsgg

Cause it was a shitty article with someone who clearly views KPOP is a certain way, and the answers seemed weird af, it looks HIGHLY edited. and why ask an artist about fandom activities? Like wtf is RM suppose to do/say?

this was never an issue when Bieber was begging his fans to mass stream playlists, or companies using bundles, if billboard doesn't like mass buying they can lower sales(I think they should)

they act like BB hot 100 was some perfect chart and is now forever tainted by BTS ARMY lol

JB got a lot of hate on what he did.

Bundles rules was changed to be stricter.

Nicki no.1 BB a also got hate, Taylor lower her music price for No.1 also got call out.

There is no way BTS with the fandom manipulation doing for 9 weeks at No.1 get exemption.

Quote from horizonshard

So people buying music is chart manipulation? That doesn't seem correct to me.

Money funded oversea to buy music in the US. I think it’s clearly chart manipulation

Quote from ripia

Literally every fan in the world wants their fave to chart well, how is this a scandal? if i could pay 1 million for twice to get number 1 on billboard I would do it too!

And fan and BTS got a lot of criticism for this behaviour. BB and BTS have to come to a point both of them get into this debate.

Quote from GoldenNini

How exactly are they “manipulating charts”??

I think using the money funded oversea to buy music in the US clearly a type of manipulation.

Quote from penguinsgg

Cause it was a shitty article with someone who clearly views KPOP is a certain way, and the answers seemed weird af, it looks HIGHLY edited. and why ask an artist about fandom activities? Like wtf is RM suppose to do/say?

this was never an issue when Bieber was begging his fans to mass stream playlists, or companies using bundles, if billboard doesn't like mass buying they can lower sales(I think they should)

they act like BB hot 100 was some perfect chart and is now forever tainted by BTS ARMY lol

But what fandom doing is a kind of chart manipulation, they did this for 13 weeks now for Butter and 32 weeks for Dynamite. I came across many articles provide criticism about this behaviour . BTS clearly knows about this. Do they feel happy that their song inorganic due to fandom power? They love their fans so much but manipulation is a bad thing as well

Quote from bobsyouruncle

did something happen mid post OP?? finish your post

I accidentally hit submit.

I think it was a good choice for BB to ask BTS about the fandom donation to buy music in the US in the interview. What the fandom currently doing can be seen as a chart manipulation and get lots of criticism, controversial among western fans and press. There are many articles wrote about this, also BB has been quite shading them about this fandom buying power few times.

RM provided a good answer and put the work for BB to do their job. If they are not happy, they need to change the rule. I still think the Company (HyBE and Columbia) should also involves in the process of limited online store sale, but mainly it’s BB responsibility .

Quote from paradis

Butter does not need your random arbitrary 15 weeks cut off to be considered successful, who made you the lord and arbiter of what is successful?

I think 15 weeks is a normal number for a big hit, also with their huge initial success, there short live in top 10 is disappointing. The new melon chart has proved the truly big hit will stay in top 10 longer.

Quote from killingtime1934

Nah, I feel selling 2m. -2.5 us very likely but BTS next album will probably sell like 7m

What about NCT2022 instead of NCT Dream or NCT 127?

My take is not this year, next year, when SM Does something like NCT2022, they will definitely have the best selling Korean album. I only think NCT2022 will do the job rather than NCT Dream or NCT 127.

Their growth is crazy, SM is smart focus on China, also other big SEA Kpop fans countries like Indonesia, Vietnam, … I expect NCT2022 will reach 6 million copies.

Quote from paradis

People talking about Butter underperforming is peak clownery while ignoring that they have 2 songs in top 10. MSG or NL did not take away the shine from Butter but having PTD in top 10 too divided the attention between the two songs.

Imagine coming for BTS who have been charting 2 songs in top 10 for 7 weeks. A particular fandom will never change in displaying their insecurity regarding BTS. Sad and pathetic but not unexpected.

If you look closed closer to the chart run of Butter, the song started high but lost momentum after few weeks atop the chart. I was in another thread put out said that if Butter can chart for 15 weeks, it will be very successful. However, it is not, take into the consideration that The current Melon chart is still slow and the users number hasn’t been rising back yet.

Dynamite is abnormal, but BTS chart performance in top 10 melon (minus Dynamite) is not good compared with other digital monsters. The gap between Dynamite and other BTS titles/ singles chart performance may lead to confusion about BTS digital, Dynamite doing the number 3 time their second best single.

Quote from Afriyieau1

Are you a troll??

I meant number of weeks in top 10 PER SONGS. Not the total number

Quote from MassiveKpopFan

BTS outdoes every group in terms of overall longevity, I'll take that over a melon weekly record. (which BTS already has anyway).

I meant the number of weeks in top 10 PER SONGS. Dynamite is abnormal, but apart from Dynamite, their second highest is 13 weeks, which is not really impressive at all. Other digital monsters like IU, BP, BB,… have more songs with many more weeks in top 10.

The song is really good.

Quote from MassiveKpopFan

The weekly update in a few hours will be its 13th, yes. Permission to Dance will likely get around 7 this rate.

Tbh, based on the BTS number of weeks in top 10, they just do ok for a BG why falling hard compare to BP and other digital monsters.

Quote from Elf_lover

Well compared to other second gen groups maybe. They have always been a popular group.

I think they are on pair with IU. Like I said, they had a lot of scandal before Burning Sun and their career still going high. I think they just need to release a very good song, their status will comeback

Quote from Elf_lover

Yes and No. Yes because of Seungri’s actions and ones that in a lot of people’s mind can’t be forgiven.

No because of what they’ve achieved as a second gen group and been very successful, they’ve survived scandals before and still have a big fan base. It’s really hard to tell at this point, we’ll have to wait and see on this one.

I don’t think their fan base that huge, they have a strong GP support, even more than BTS and on pair with IU. TOP drug scandal could not stop them to reach highest 24hr uls when Flower road released in 2018.

I realise Many people underestimated BB a lot. Remember even before Burning Sun, BB had many scandals and they still comeback successfully. In 2017, TOP drug scandal happened but their digital single in 2018 got PAK, hit no1 every chart. They are test of time. Their new songs will get hit uls and perform well with promotion. GP cared about music, not about BB personal life, which is very different from other IDOL groups, including BTS.

Quote from kiwijoon

its not like RV ever had the digital status Twice or Blackpink has so it isnt suprising - no song of theirs has even hit 900 mill index yet

I would agree on this. RV digital is hit and miss during their whole career. So there is no guarantee

Justin Bieber Stay hit top 10 Melon 24hits, top 5 genie real-time. A big hit coming