Posts by proud-fan

Idk why she is deemed a "nugu" when she held for 3 years the record of highest charting kpop female solo in BBH100 at #70 and take note that she charted even without the count of her physicals. She was only the kpop female solo to top both BB200 at #1. She has the highest weekly US streams for 3 years at 2M which other bp solos did not reach that time. OTG was twice the best selling digital song in China at 1.8M. OTG was at #3 and Gone peaked at #5 in Kcharts despite being English songs. She also got #1 in Itunes US, Worldwide Digital Song, United World Chart with OTG in the list for two weeks.

Her streams are stable af despite not being Tiktok friendly which the other bp songs were like Flower and Money. Her YT views are stable too.

Her album sales are now almost 1M with 1 version only unlike the other bp solo albums with 2 versions.

I really believe the reason why Rosé is being underestimated even with all her achievements is because of the mindset that Jennie and Lisa are the most popular so their achievements were overestimated while Jisoo is the underdog so blinks have to overcompensate. But if you come to think of it, Rosé held records that even the other girls did not reach.

Flower was big but not enough to reach BBH100.

OTG and Lalisa first day streams were so close with OTG topping it even Money which only got viral due to Squid Game and Tiktok (gp driven). Lalisa was below OTG in BBH100 and BB200.

Solo was big in SK. But Solo and OTG were from different chart systems with OTG and Gone charting high in the chart reform considered as the hardest to enter. You & Me also got viral in Tiktok. OOTG with Abel did not even enter BBH100 at first but also got viral.

And saying that OTG fell off BBH100 the 2nd week is also the same as with other bp solo songs falling off the 2nd week. But the record that she held will always be charting at #70 the highest charting Kpop solo female act.

So I really don't understand how Rosé is a "flop"or even a "nugu" when the achievements of the girls are close enough. And she even topped some if not most of them. She is big in SK second to Jennie or arguably bigger than her if not only because of IU and Rollin blocking her in charts. She is the biggest in China with OTG winning best selling digital song TWICE. And has better numbers than Jennie and Lisa in the West especially in the US.

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It's not the kind of song that I'll ever add to my playlist but I totally get why it's so popular.

It has popular artists from different regions so it's reaching a larger audience. It's got the nostalgia factor in the sound, it's fun and catchy. I've already seen it being used in reels of non-kpop circles.

It has even reached the anime community. It is charting high in Japan which is the market that BP or Rosé has not able to touch.

Maybe try to go out and look around you. Here in my country, APT can be heard everywhere. All ages from kids to oldies sing it.

Even in other countries, the song is everywhere.

It is all over tiktok which us the most consumed social app right now.

And there is no even promo yet which is frustrating because APT could be bigger than it is now if it is promoted by Rosé and her team. But thankfully, the general public carries it.

For the ads? Another passive promo. But just look at the views and likes ratio and you'll see how it is organic. The general public just loves the song. That's just it.

This was already refuted by the Ministry of Health of Malaysia quoting that tweet.

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Bruno Mars and Lady Gaga released the track Die with a Smile that everyone was talking about, and on the wave of hype he releases the next track with Rose. It is silly to deny that Bruno Mars' influence on the track is huge, by the way, without him the track would have been mediocre, since he produced the music, the lyrics in the track play a secondary role. But Rose + Bruno's vocals have excellent chemistry.

Rose herself admitted that she wanted to delete the track.

Rosé actually wrote the song before her team pitched it to Bruno. She almost deleted it because she found it ridiculous to have written a song about a korean drinking game but because her team found it nice, they pitched it to the right person who also by the way, saw the potential of the song.

I agree that Bruno's impact also helped but let's not deny that Rosé's power also helped. And the song reaching the records they have right now is not only about Bruno. It is the song itself. The song is just that good that all ages can enjoy despite being based on a Korean drinking game. Bruno and Rosé's impact are just a bonus.

If the song flopped, for sure, Rosé would be blamed. And if it is smashing, it is because of Bruno.

This is a duet. So both parties contributed. Rosé's fandom actually helped this time. They have been very hungry for years now. That's why they are all out now in supporting her. And Rosé always showed great numbers in the West. She was and is still the only one who got #1 in both BB200 and #70 in BBH100.

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APT is going viral but there’s in issue. She doesnt sound like her usual singing self in most of the song. When she releases her other songs it will be the usual Rose sound. So there might be feeling of disappointment for listeners who got into APT but wouldn’t like the rest of her catalog due to the diff in voice color

What are you saying?

This is her real voice. And for sure she had vocal lessons during those times she was visiting recording studios to improve her voice. She actually sings better in English than in Korean. Listen to BP english songs for you to hear Rosé's voice.

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People try to undercut Rosé's success by using Bruno, but in fact Bruno's collab with Gaga was 2 months before it. Both songs have full 7 days of counting.

The song is just so damn good, catchy and addictive.

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Right? Always saying that this is Bruno's impact when the song will still smash because it is a good song written by Rosé and co-produced by Bruno.

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BP is much stronger in Asia

but Billboard #1s are decided by North Americans

But still, Bruno reached new records because of this song that even records he reached with his collab with Lady Gaga were topped.

And Rosé always had great numbers in the West. She was and is the only Kpop soloist to reach #1 in both BB200 charts and #70 in BBH100 without proper promotions and remixes.

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Depends upon how great her album is since a lot of APT's success is because of Mars

Because of Mars? When this is even the first time for Bruno to top the Kcharts. Not setting aside Bruno's impact but APT did better than DWAS both domestically and internationally. This is not about Bruno nor Rosé anymore. The song is smashing because it is a good song. Both Rosé and Bruno are reaching new records because of this song. So this is not only Bruno's impact. Like give Rosé her flowers too for being the writer and spearheading this song.

APT might still reach 700k before GD comes back.

Rosé really took time to immerse herself with music. She looked for that specific path she wanted to go that's why it took her a long time to release a song. But now that she finally found it, she is ready to rock and roll.

Also, she always had it. She was not just given the chance to show it. Maybe because she herself also hasn't found the courage yet.

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I don't know, maybe because Rose never charted well in SK till now? Neither of her so many (2) songs charted well, unlike the others'.

Yes, my thread is about the PAK, but I was surprised, because she's the most underrated member of the group. And that's not something that only I'm saying, I've seen a LOT of Blinks saying this also, for YEARS!

I don't get it why some of are fighting with me when I didn't say anything bad, just stated facts.

OTG and Gone charter #3 and #5 in all Kcharts which was even considered as the hardest Kchart system that time. All English songs at that.

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Oh ok

So she drop a song alone she has to do the same and I will be here to ask u again

Let's see this Dec. 6. But Rosé has always shown great numbers in Spotify. And do not underestimate her because this just makes her fanbase to work harder for the album.

And as if, Rosé did not just do 400k in Melon with OTG. If she was not blocked by IU and Brave Girls, she would have gotten higher charting. But even so, she still got 400k uls for an English song. Like even Gone charted Top 5.

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But it is

It's like how u all said oftg was all Jennie doing and look at her now

How is this Bruno Mars' power?

Like this is his biggest debut. If this is because of his power, his collab with Lady Gaga should have done better numbers especially that he collabed with the Lady Gaga.

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Her last music release was in 2021. This is a good number after a 3 years gap.

Very good numbers for a supposed "flop" member.

Hard To Love even did great numbers in Spotify and US Spotify.

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Bruno Mars and all and can't even touch hylt debut...

That was in 2020...

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You're such a hater.

But even so, this is Bruno Mars' biggest Spotify debut.

Also, Rosé has always shown great number in Spotify.

So yes, this is Rosé's power.

Twice supposed popularity internationally is so overestimated that it always sounds fake. Thinking that Onces are calling them the biggest gg in the US just because they were the "first" to hold a concert in Sofi Stadium would make them the biggest. Where did those attendance numbers went to?

Twice will always have sales thanks to fandom and inflation. But realistically speaking, they are already past their prime. Their leaving behind SK and moving towards the West was always not a good idea because they didn't even move past that. Yes, they did have the tour numbers and sales. But those sales and tour numbers do not match their streams which is the most dominant factor for popularity and relevancy right now.

Also, they are targeting the US market and yet they are still struggling.

Rosé seems to be very underestimated when in fact she was able to pull of high charting during her solo debut, only below IU and Brave Girls. If it weren't for them, she might have taken the top spot. She was also able to chart #70 in BBH100, #1 in both BB200. She is still the best selling BP member in China(digital). And her album -R- is still selling, now at 880k.

Rosé might be "less popular" than Jennie but she has achieved impressive feats. So I think Rosé will give Jennie a tight competition in terms of charting and sales.

BP is still the most streamed female group in 2023 without any release.

BP Born Pink is still the highest-grossing KPop tour.

BP Born Pink is still the highest-selling album by a Kpop female group.

BP is still the most relevant in all aspects.

Jennie has the most monthly listener in Spotify right now higher than NewJeans had.

So no. Newjeans has still a long way to go before they can even dethrone BP in the top 1 position.

And hopefully, they are not just trendy why they are now big because that will suck if ever the trendiness will wear off.

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