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They were always going to win Artist of the year and Album of the year bc this is not MAMA

For SOTY the only song bigger than Supernova this year was APT (which is not eligible as released too late) so they were gonna win it as well.

Not sure how this is surprising

1. Blackpink

2. SNSD

3. Twice

4. NewJeans

5. 2NE1

6. Wonder Girls

7. Sistar

8. Aespa

9. Ive

10. MAMAMOO

I think half based on popularity/success and and half based on the impact of the groups i felt, this is probably the top 10 i would go for.

Sorry for 1st gen ggs i just dont know any of them and tbh i watch alot of recent k variety and what not and i cant really feel their presence or impact nowadays.

I'm hoping that what everyone and newjeans says is right and also they will win the contract termination against ADOR eventually because they have enough evidence that ADOR and HYBE are the ones who breached it.

But i kind of want to know if there is any way to avoid the potential dragging out of this case that HYBE and ADOR will do? Because I think it is fairly certain that ADOR and HYBE will not just let them terminate without fighting in court for a while

If APT gets the same kind of boost when the album drops then it could be a long time until it is dethroned.

Wasnt 100% that it will be bigger than Supernova in Korea but seems like now after 5 weeks its longevity is looking good and its peak is quite a bit higher than Supernova so yeah seems like its the biggest song of 2024 in korea as well.

Of course it couldve been even bigger - etc its ULs couldve still been at Supernova's peak right now if she promoted more. But I think the promotions are left late nearer to the album's release date? Like the Yoo Quiz on the block appearance is also only around the album release time

Because its a full Ballad I don't think Rose's new song will do that well in korean charts

It could give APT a boost though, might be enough for APT to hold off Whiplash until the album drops on Dec 6.

But G-dragon's song might be top before then depending on how well it is received

YG's management of Blackpink is quite diabolical tbh.

First I think they didnt expect Blackpink to do as well as they did.

Then once Blackpink started doing well they have no idea how to handle their comebacks. It makes 0 sense for a group to go on a 1.5 years hiatus at the peak of their powers in 2019-2020 and then 2020-2022.

Even releasing just one more album in between these 2 hiatuses will do only good for both the company and Blackpink

Im sure debuting in YG has helped Blackpink in many ways, but we also have to look from the other perspective that because of YG they are not as big as they could've gotten

Based on current performance both groups are doing worse than I thought they would

Babymonster being from YG who's gg has never not done well in korea and the hype for MEOVV being the first Teddy's first own gg

For now Babymonster definitely seemed to have more potential tho its hard to bet on MEOVV without knowing how capable their label actually is at promoting a kpop group since they have never done it before

is HYBE actually pissed off at rose for mentioning how much she loves newjeans in an interview

That was not even a day ago.

They are real fast with this

First single after APT is here, expectations?

Release time 2PM KST

JYP seems like a person with very strict rules and an ego to go with it, so I dont him working with MHJ ever happening, but they would benefit from newjeans obviously

Would Babymonster have been more successful than they are now?

He was basically putting himself out there as the main producer/director for the last evaluation and now even after debut in behind the scenes he is everywhere.

Babymonster is kind of associated with Yang Hyun Suk himself now... is that even a good thing with how tarnished his image is in Korea

Its a great song and unfortunate to be released alongside APT especially with Rose's album releasing in 2 weeks' time giving APT another boost.

Dont think it will get to reach #1 on melon because of that as well and also seems like APT has taken back Bugs daily as well. But its nice to see that it can get #1 on genie at least for a few hours

Im not that invested in newjeans music but no one wants to see girls who have worked so hard for so many of their teenage years lose what they worked for just because of people with more power

The only one with a slim chance of getting something was APT and I think it will only be considered for next year's grammys due to its late release date.

So I dont think this was that surprising

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I wonder why everyone's metric for success is always Eurocentric. Some might think Blackpink are bigger because they have an audience among "Western", American or European countries but that doesn't necessarily constitute a global audience.

Kpop spread across Asia before it could reach the West and the Hallyu wave has been a slow-moving soft power process since the 90s (arguably). Arguing that Big Bang is the biggest because they're probably more well-known across Asia is not the far reach people think it is, especially when you add the element of their longevity and the fact they were able to access a wider audience (across genders and ages etc).

When people select highest-grossing movies of all time, people tend to adjust for inflation. It makes perfect sense why some would apply a similar way of thinking when discussing who's the "biggest" as all groups listed are from different generations so to make a direct comparison becomes rather difficult. If this question had the option for PSY, he would also be a strong contender for being the biggest in this line of argument.

Really the question should have been framed better- does biggest really mean a group with a Western audience? Are we referring to groups biggest within Korea? Or who has the biggest audience across all age groups? Or does it mean biggest in terms of revenue and income generated? Does it mean who is the biggest in 2024 or who is the biggest with adjustments to the limitations of their respective (Kpop) generation?

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I thought this was because nobody wants to bring up Asia when comparing achievements against Blackpink because that is practically their home ground.

I actually think that in Europe or US or the west, Blackpink's success, stats, impact can still be arguable and maybe not as big as people make it out to be.

But in Asia they are seriously at a different level. Charting, streaming, touring etc Blackpink are basically as big as they are in Korea or even bigger in some Asian countries. They are basically like the a top 3/5 artist there

Just a small example the #1 Song in Singapore and Malaysia in 2022.
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Everyone knows how much impact Bigbang and 2NE1 has on the company and on the industry but they are nowhere close to Blackpink in success if we are being totally honest with ourselves

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APT. scores another 50M + digital points week on circle digital chart (53M). First song to do so after beach again in 2020. Also this is the biggest week of digital points for any song in 2024

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Thats actually pretty crazy

Mostly? Definitely not because I think kpop groups debuting between 2018-2022 have the best luck and timing since they debuting when kpop blew up internationally so they get way more attention than those who debut before.

It has definitely helped Blackpink in some regards, there is no doubt about it tho. But if we're being honest look at the number of big3/4 ggs who debuted between 2016 and now and the fact that we can only name maybe 1 gg that has come close to the level of success/popularity they had when u can make a point about all their privileges speaks volumes.

I do think that their songs is not as good as some other ggs though and they got carried abit by the members' star power

I am not as well informed about the Newjeans-Hybe situation as the ppl that are invested in this issue but with big corporations like HYBE and those with alot of power, the court of public opinion is a very powerful thing, and it seems like HYBE lost alot on that front.

It is just like that one time Coca cola lost billions because Ronaldo decides to tell everyone to drink water instead of coke because its not healthy

Whiplash already going to overtake Power after the weekend?