Based on current performance both groups are doing worse than I thought they would
Babymonster being from YG who's gg has never not done well in korea and the hype for MEOVV being the first Teddy's first own gg
For now Babymonster definitely seemed to have more potential tho its hard to bet on MEOVV without knowing how capable their label actually is at promoting a kpop group since they have never done it before
First single after APT is here, expectations?
Release time 2PM KST
Would Babymonster have been more successful than they are now?
He was basically putting himself out there as the main producer/director for the last evaluation and now even after debut in behind the scenes he is everywhere.
Babymonster is kind of associated with Yang Hyun Suk himself now... is that even a good thing with how tarnished his image is in Korea 
Its a great song and unfortunate to be released alongside APT especially with Rose's album releasing in 2 weeks' time giving APT another boost.
Dont think it will get to reach #1 on melon because of that as well and also seems like APT has taken back Bugs daily as well. But its nice to see that it can get #1 on genie at least for a few hours
Display MoreI wonder why everyone's metric for success is always Eurocentric. Some might think Blackpink are bigger because they have an audience among "Western", American or European countries but that doesn't necessarily constitute a global audience.
Kpop spread across Asia before it could reach the West and the Hallyu wave has been a slow-moving soft power process since the 90s (arguably). Arguing that Big Bang is the biggest because they're probably more well-known across Asia is not the far reach people think it is, especially when you add the element of their longevity and the fact they were able to access a wider audience (across genders and ages etc).
When people select highest-grossing movies of all time, people tend to adjust for inflation. It makes perfect sense why some would apply a similar way of thinking when discussing who's the "biggest" as all groups listed are from different generations so to make a direct comparison becomes rather difficult. If this question had the option for PSY, he would also be a strong contender for being the biggest in this line of argument.
Really the question should have been framed better- does biggest really mean a group with a Western audience? Are we referring to groups biggest within Korea? Or who has the biggest audience across all age groups? Or does it mean biggest in terms of revenue and income generated? Does it mean who is the biggest in 2024 or who is the biggest with adjustments to the limitations of their respective (Kpop) generation?
I thought this was because nobody wants to bring up Asia when comparing achievements against Blackpink because that is practically their home ground.
I actually think that in Europe or US or the west, Blackpink's success, stats, impact can still be arguable and maybe not as big as people make it out to be.
But in Asia they are seriously at a different level. Charting, streaming, touring etc Blackpink are basically as big as they are in Korea or even bigger in some Asian countries. They are basically like the a top 3/5 artist there
Just a small example the #1 Song in Singapore and Malaysia in 2022.
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APT. scores another 50M + digital points week on circle digital chart (53M). First song to do so after beach again in 2020. Also this is the biggest week of digital points for any song in 2024
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Thats actually pretty crazy
Mostly? Definitely not because I think kpop groups debuting between 2018-2022 have the best luck and timing since they debuting when kpop blew up internationally so they get way more attention than those who debut before.
It has definitely helped Blackpink in some regards, there is no doubt about it tho. But if we're being honest look at the number of big3/4 ggs who debuted between 2016 and now and the fact that we can only name maybe 1 gg that has come close to the level of success/popularity they had when u can make a point about all their privileges speaks volumes.
I do think that their songs is not as good as some other ggs though and they got carried abit by the members' star power
I am not as well informed about the Newjeans-Hybe situation as the ppl that are invested in this issue but with big corporations like HYBE and those with alot of power, the court of public opinion is a very powerful thing, and it seems like HYBE lost alot on that front.
It is just like that one time Coca cola lost billions because Ronaldo decides to tell everyone to drink water instead of coke because its not healthy
Whiplash already going to overtake Power after the weekend?
To be fair, if Blackpink was the one who released 'Drip' I would think it will be a #1 Hit.
YG also tried to promote Babymonster abit more than his normal groups but it aint working. I find it so shocking that a YG girlgroup is not doing well in k-charts
Maybe their reputation in korea is really down the drain
G-Dragon managed to block APT on Bugs for about a day but its back now
Chorus could have been slightly better but overall the song is great
Its the biggest kpop song since Dynamite
