To be fair, if Blackpink was the one who released 'Drip' I would think it will be a #1 Hit.
YG also tried to promote Babymonster abit more than his normal groups but it aint working. I find it so shocking that a YG girlgroup is not doing well in k-charts
Maybe their reputation in korea is really down the drain
G-Dragon managed to block APT on Bugs for about a day but its back now
Chorus could have been slightly better but overall the song is great
Its the biggest kpop song since Dynamite
Is APT actually going to beat 2023 highest ULs records?
Does anyone know what was the highest ULs achieved in 2023?
army vs blinks at their peak in 2018-19 was a different level.
They fought over both real and made-up conflicts 24/7 and there were some really really terrible stuff going around
Blackpink debuted when the whole concept of YG family was falling apart and was blamed for 2NE1's disbandment and Twice whilest they had their survival show it was nowhere as popular as the biggest survival shows in korea + their debut song did not do well from the start, it was a sleeper hit.
They also did not debut in an era where the kpop market is as global as it is now. So it cant really be Bp or Twice
Mamamoo is more of hit or miss, so I'll choose Bp
AIIYL and RF are the top gg song of 2017 and they perform really similarly, RF has slightly bigger peak and AIIYL has slightly better longetivity and re-charts every summer in korea.
Hard to tell but we've had similar arguments with HYLT vs LSG and Dolphin vs Nonstop in 2020 as well. Different ppl different opinion
well for the most part 3rd gen destroyed records from 2nd gen by 2017 or 2018.
4th gen still does not have the top records such as highest charting in spotify, highest grossing/attended tour, highest melon ULs, highest circle points, youtube views, highest album sales or highest selling album etc etc
So its lucky for 3rd gen fans as they still have stats to boast about which they are still ahead against 4th gen groups, as long as they use the biggest 3rd gen groups' names.
2nd gen fans didnt have this luxury.
In terms of total career stats:
Touring : Blackpink and its not even close (They make the most money in their career as a result)
Album Sales: Twice and its not even close
International Streams, Charting: Blackpink and its not even close ( YT, Spotify is at least 4.5 Billion gap, Blackpink has #1s in charts all over Asia and they chart better in Europe and NA as well, plus they are basically #1 in China)
Korean Streams, Charting: Twice has about 10 hits in Korea, with 3 very big ones in TT, DTNA and Cheer Up, Blackpink has about 9 hits with 3 very big ones in AIIYL/LSG, D4 and HYLT ( so its close but Twice edges it), SNSD has some really really iconic hits but overall they are way more well known for their recognition than digital power and NewJeans is too young
Would say because of this Blackpink edges it as the most successful k gg of the 4 and of all time. Personally I dont really care about brand reputation, popularity, international/korea impact and everything else but if those are added then it would just be more points for why Blackpink is #1
You miss the point. Babymonster get attention because of BP and BP got their hype because of 2NE1 and 2NE1 got hype because of Big Bang, even the boost BP got from coming from the same company as 2NE1 was bigger that the boost 2NE1 goot. So yes, it's a link between them.
But it's the same for other groups, NewJeans have much of their status just because they come from same company as BTS. Aespa because the are a SME groups etc. The true heros are groups from smaller companies.
Internationally i agree.
But in korea, this generation of ggs dont benefit from the hype of just being in a big 3, with the except of hybe.
Aespa, nmixx, babymonster debut all charted so bad initially with literally nobody checking them out.
There is no true heroes imo because so much of kpop is in the trainee years. The toughest places to be at is at the biggest companies. For them to even debut at the biggest companies showed the additional work they have to had put in just to reach that stage
No disrespect to 2NE1, but i doubt babymonster has much links to them tbh.
Blackpink definitely did received attention with 2NE1 as their senior.
Whilst Blackpink was successful at debut and released 3 hits in 1.5 years in whistle, PWF and AIIYL, they are way more known for their longetivity and all of their peak performances (korea in 2018 and 2020), (and internationally whichever is their most recent comeback) are when they are no longer rookies so this is a weird comparison.
Feels like this would've been a closer comparison had it been against Twice or IVE
