Posts by sassily
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if you have a problem with these types of practices you shouldn't support any kpop content.
a bunch of ex-kpop trainees have said the girls in that project were treated much better than they were, and speculated it was due to cultural differences, that Western girls wouldn't be able to (or want to) keep up with the regular trainee system so they had to give them more leeway.
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And then that few users will pretend to have amnesia. Even though they are in every thread, even positive ones, trying to ruin the mood.
it's the "fake news" outrage at these accusations that gets me lol like they must realise even if they claim amnesia, the rest of us can remember which posters write what on this forum, right? it's not like there's that many users around.
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Link a thread where I said anything negative about LE SSERAFIM.
And you aren't qualified to speak on my fandom. I'm in the discord every day and regularly browse the subreddit; Bunnies never trash talk other groups and fandoms like this.
If you need to bring receipts from twitter or YT comments as the ultimate proof of Bunnies being a toxic fandom, then your case is weak. Going to twitter or YT and being "surprised" to see fandoms being toxic is like going to a dumpster and being surprised you found trash.
Be for real, people.
dude you have to go no further than this thread to see some folks who shit on LSF regularly and with great joy. You think there's not lots of other "fans" like them out there who latched onto NJ as an excuse to send hate to other groups? bfr.
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It's clear you lost the plot from the first sentence of this rambling nonsense.
How can people be given multiple, concise summaries with clear timelines of every major and minor event in this dispute and STILL fail to comprehend the facts, instead choosing to throw out this delusional fanfiction.
MIN HEEJIN was the one who distracted from the original dispute? What?! From the very beginning, HYBE was the one throwing out baseless accusation after baseless accusation to bury her under an avalanche of malicious media play.
This has gone from MHJ was meeting with multiple outside investors, embezzled company funds and tried to usurp the company (ALL rejected in court) to HYBE bringing up Shaman, a sexual assault case THEIR employee and the current ADOR CEO shut down, and constantly trying to use BTS to rally together those rabid i-ARMY who will stupidly give their life for a company that put more effort into covering up BSH's escapades with a BJ streamer than they did into Suga's DUI.
Make it make sense.
Just like you, HYBE is the one who lost the plot and they're the ones moving the goalposts from their initial accusations (a fact they tried to stop the media from reporting on--unsuccessfully might I add) and now they're gaslighting willfully ignorant company stans.
Stop it
it's rather you who's so scared to lose NJ (I empathise) that you find it easier to blame it all on Hybe and defend all of MHJ's actions - even denying stuff that she has admitted to herself. Sorry but some of you need to actually read her defenses before you claim that stuff never happened. Even she didn't say that. She went from "total BS" to "sure but it was only emplyee A" to "okay so we vented at times it wasn't serious" to "okay we had plans but didn't put anything in action". Same for her awful text messages, you guys still claim they're all doctored like she didn't defend them by saying her personality is just like that, everybody vents sometimes, the girls know her true heart, etc. Like obviously they're real. And that's more than enough for me to realise she's a shitty person, and it should be for anybody who isn't just blindly defending her.
I don't give a shit if Hybe loses a ton of money in this mess, but it's laughable how some of MHJ biggest defenders try to claim she's the "good guy" here.
Edit: and that's the last I'll say on this, cause this discussion is just going in circles and has been for months. Wake me up when they've left Hybe or whatever, so there's something new to talk about.
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it's pretty impressive that MHJ has successfully managed to deflect attention from why this started in the first place though, because she was making plans (whether or not she could have followed through they were certainly far more detailed than some idle musings as she claimed first) to leave with her company despite the investment made in it by Hybe.
and frankly so much of her grievances are just petty as hell. The NJs parents complained about Illit mentioning kalguksu as some offense against NJ. That's just dumb. Not being greeted by BSH. So? This isn't actual mistreatment or mismanagement. I don't disagree that Hybe didn't present their case well but I don't think MHJ did either. It was pretty obvious from the leaks from both sides that this is a war of egos, MHJ vs the higher ups at Hybe, and it has been from the start. But I think she's been very successful at her PR campaign - using NJ as the face of it - that she's fighting the bad conditions of her parent company. When honestly she just resents that she doesn't have full control of Ador/NJ.
she should have just started her own company, everyone would have been better off, though she's delusional if she thinks NJ would have had the same stratospheric success under "just" Ador.
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that's the least unbelievable thing in this for me. Weren't two of them child models? they're probably all stage parents.
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There are people out there who fight for the things they believe in yk? New Jeans girlies have decided that they don't want to side with people who ostracize them (and that was the case even before the scandam, mind you) and want to shelve them, so they decided to side with a person who so far has showed that she wants NJ to succeed. Who will succeed? We will see, but no one is backing down.
This is all really simple to understand in my head, idk.
but aside from Bang PD's ego and not greeting them in the elevator, is there any evidence that others at Hybe were "ostracising" them? cause MHJ didn't want them on the same platform as the other groups, didn't want them to do dance challenges with them aside from BTS members, and didn't give permission for them to be in other Hybe-related content/promo (or in the case of PTD where the decision was made by someone else, even complained about it). Like this is clearly the narrative they're going with, but it seems by design. It's pretty obvious that MHJ always intended for Ador to have as little to do with Hybe as possible.
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they can't be surprised that managers of companies currently suing MHJ don't want their idols to talk to them especially when everyone knows they're ride-or-die for her.
for all I care they can leave the company with their ex-CEO but I'll always say it's insane how much that woman has tied herself to the group, both on a personal level and in terms of their public identity. Nobody believes NewJeans are special without her vision. Isn't that nuts? I don't know any other group where there's such an unprofessional blurring of lines between employer and employee and more importantly, where the CEO of a company is seen as a bigger deal than the actual idols.
it has always rubbed me the wrong way how she gave herself all the credit in early interviews and how she isolated NJ from their peers and now we can see why. She's basically ensured there's no NJ without her.
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sure. Just unofficial, like with modern Kpop groups. The designated position thing is outdated even here now.
take One Direction, Harry was basically the center, Zayn the visual, Liam the main vocalist, with Harry and Zayn as leads and the other two (sorry) were subvocalists.
even more so, look at Nsync where Justin and JC sang EVERYTHING and the other three were also there. Subvocalists. Although to be fair Justin and JC basically had all the positions, and the other three just made up the numbers.
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imo the group seems like a bunch of influencers stuck in a group... i swear they did not look like they were enjoying the song or anything
i rmber ella's expressions being super awkward too...i rlly liked gawon and sooin's voice tho it was SO GOOD, and narin seems pretty charismatic compared to the rest
I don't wanna sound like a huge Narin hater but I thought it would have been better if she'd dialled it down too. She was overdoing it at times with the constant squint-glaring etc and everyone else just gave blank instagram face. They didn't feel very cohesive as a group. If BP-lite is what they want then the three models aren't a good fit. If it's chic instagram baddie Narin doesn't fit.
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