does lesserafim have a chance at rivaling ive?

Quote from SunnySun

this, the artist sell the song not reverse, especially for idols, you'll need a viral hit like Rollin to be carried by the song alone, obvious song matters in long run too, if they like the song, it will have great longevity but it started doing good because of the group, they wouldn't bother to check it if it was another group

Not sure if I fully agree. Yes, Yujin & Wonyoung Are an important factor, but why would IZ*ONE not have had bigger hits if that is the case, since ELEVEN performed better than any IZ*ONE song?

i wanna see the other 3 girls first to judge 😅 other than the quality of the song....we all know knetz are obsessed with visuals so they need atleast one member that is comparable with wonyoung and sullyoon's visual.

Ive had a great hit but they haven't become an unsurpassable group. Of course Lesserafim or any other group can surpass them. It's just a matter of a good timing and good song + luck at going viral.

Lesserafim will have Japan and China secured, I doubt they will flop in Korea too. They'll surely chart better than groups like Kep1er, whether their song will top the charts depends on many things but I believe it will have a decent charting at least.

Sales wise lesserafim will be on top too.

So yeah, if hybe gives them good debut song and good album, if the unknown girls are really charismatic and pull in even more attention and fans then lesserafim will quickly become one of the top 4th gen ggs

yes I believe they do

Quote from aclassyteaparty

but honestly speaking, if eleven had come from a different gg, the song would not have done as well as it did. it became trendy and i think its very underestimated how much the sk charts are influenced by trendiness which is often why international fans are left baffled by the songs sk gp propels and the songs they drop like a hot potato. popular artists get hit after hit in sk while, especially now, it is hard for groups or artists with 0 backing to break through.

this is why i think how the members are perceived is way more important than the song in the current kpop climate. i mean look at wa da da and o.o. both songs are just objectively bad at the end of the day. but they we still able to chart for other reasons, ie the popularity of members/viral dance trends.

i have faith that with hybe involved, lesserafim will come with a quality song. but there are more factor than just the quality that could make it blow up.

Wut? Wadada was SOTY quality. Hybe will help because of hype, not because of its music quality lol, unless you're talking about TXT who has been on fire recently.