Girl group fans? Yes. I will say girl group fans underestimate all boy group's popularity. Because most of the numbers they see come with "Female" filter.
Girl group fans? Yes. I will say girl group fans underestimate all boy group's popularity. Because most of the numbers they see come with "Female" filter.
Are these two boy groups considered popular by bg stans instead? Just curious
They're only underestimated by certain fandoms. 
Because we live in a dirty world where people only remember no.1
Seventeen and Ateez are popular, so does a bunch of other bgs, albeit at different levels. But we start to get to the point of comparing between shades of blacks or grey. It’s debatable, hence some people will see it less and some will see it more. It’s not black and white.
Also because 17's fandom isn't loud enough
Why do you think ateez are overestimated?
Ateez is overestimated...that's funny
They are the only 4th gen group to win on Immortal songs 3 times and be on there 5 times
constantly invited back, took 3rd place on Kingdom, which was their goal, they are HUGE internationally but not as much domestically. Don't discredit their achievements.
they are by no means at stray kids level or seventeen, we don't deny that, but they, in their own right, earned what they have.
this is since 2021
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