War in Ukraine in a week?

Putin already promised Xi that he wouldn't invade Ukraine until after the Olympics.

The US and UK are the ones beating the drums of war. Zelensky stated he doesn't believe that Russia will invade and even asked the US to tone down the saber rattling which is destabilizing Ukraine's economy

According to American intel Iraq has WMD too

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The US and UK are the ones beating the drums of war. Zelensky stated he doesn't believe that Russia will invade and even asked the US to tone down the saber rattling which is destabilizing Ukraine's economy

lol some people here...Russia's been intimidating and making moves for years, but let's blame the US for that too, just in case. I'm not American but some people would rather blame the evil "West" for everything rather than admit their countries are fucked up too. Nobody wants war in Ukraine aside from Russia, nobody else benefits in the slightest.

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lol some people here...Russia's been intimidating and making moves for years, but let's blame the US for that too, just in case. I'm not American but some people would rather blame the evil "West" for everything rather than admit their countries are fucked up too. Nobody wants war in Ukraine aside from Russia, nobody else benefits in the slightest.

Ukraine, a coup government installed by US since 2014 wouldn't be in this current mess if they honored the Minsk agreement signed to stop NATO expanding eastwards. US who has a long history of fabricating false flag operations are actively pushing Ukraine into war not Putin and it's all about Nord Stream 2. The gas pipeline which bypass Ukraine and through Germany would make European countries energy dependent on Russian gas. Uncle Sam can't have that.

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Ukraine, a coup government installed by US since 2014 wouldn't be in this current mess if they honored the Minsk agreement signed to stop NATO expanding eastwards. US who has a long history of fabricating false flag operations are actively pushing Ukraine into war not Putin and it's all about Nord Stream 2. The gas pipeline which bypass Ukraine and through Germany would make European countries energy dependent on Russian gas. Uncle Sam can't have that.

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uhuh

a rather one-sided presentation of facts, but what else is new in the world of politics

gonna say this much: we probably gonna need a ww3 to settle the score again.

Furiously banging on wood that it doesn't happen but then again we're all just going to end up playing the blame game and false flag ops on both sides to get the other to fight and regret fighting after.

It'd be cool if the major powers expanded and made a moon war or an interplanetary war. That way it'd be more interesting to watch.

Though the "rods from god" does sound like a terrifying prospect.

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lost me after the installed part - yikes

not even gonna lie At this point I kinda wanna see how the US and Russia square up

but then again that might mean the end of the world.

also also also

there is contention of the legitimacy of the current Ukrainian govt -- well

the one that wins writes the history.

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maybe if Ukraine gives a strongly worded letter lol

(you're free to drag me on this joke btw.)

Kiev is now targeting ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine. Putin is calling this a genocide. If things escalate/Minsk II fails to implement, Russia is likely to send troops into Donbas to defend Russian separatists and Putin will eventually recognize Donetsk and Luhansk as independent republics. This gives US the green light to impose their long awaited sanctions package, finally killing off Nord Stream 2 (the gas pipeline which American lawmakers view as a threat to US hegemony/US dollar dominance.) These sanctions would push Russia further away from Europe and into the arms of China solidifying their newly announced strategic/economic alliance against the West. Energy prices will skyrocket and European nations who are already being battered by inflation would suffer the most. US will move in to supply gas to Europe. US warhawks can then pressure a weak, American energy dependent EU to fight alongside them in their New Cold War against Russia/China. Ukraine is just a geopolitical pawn for the US to undo NS2.

The real problem is that Europe is weak. European leaders are divided and are all incompetent. Only Europe can solve the problem.

They only have to do two things :

1. Explain to Russia, that the former soviet countries are part of europe and that threats against these countries and interference must stop immediately and that all European countries will go to war if this is not respected.

2. Explain to USA, that what happens between Russia and Europe concerns only Russia and Europe. They are not at home and are not concerned by this story. They don't belong there, they have to take their bases and their soldiers and go home or they will suffer the consequences.

I'm not a US fan at all but it's so worrying how many people here are parroting war propaganda from other sources without critical reflection. You can question US politics, but Russia is 100% telling the truth about their motives?

they're essentially claiming they don't "want" to attack but alas, sadly they "don't have a choice" because the evil opposing powers are making their own moves, oh what a shame. Seriously guys, this is invasion tactics 101. Gotta sell it to your own folks, oh we just did it bc they had weapons, oh we just did it to protect our people from the evil XY, etc. The US does this too, sure, but how can you recognise it with them but not your own countries? they're all the same.

I hope not. I'm thinking of fuel prices. I hope common sense prevails with Putin.

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Kiev is now targeting ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine. Putin is calling this a genocide. If things escalate/Minsk II fails to implement, Russia is likely to send troops into Donbas to defend Russian separatists and Putin will eventually recognize Donetsk and Luhansk as independent republics. This gives US the green light to impose their long awaited sanctions package, finally killing off Nord Stream 2 (the gas pipeline which American lawmakers view as a threat to US hegemony/US dollar dominance.) These sanctions would push Russia further away from Europe and into the arms of China solidifying their newly announced strategic/economic alliance against the West. Energy prices will skyrocket and European nations who are already being battered by inflation would suffer the most. US will move in to supply gas to Europe. US warhawks can then pressure a weak, American energy dependent EU to fight alongside them in their New Cold War against Russia/China. Ukraine is just a geopolitical pawn for the US to undo NS2.

So Putin officially recognized Donetsk and Luhansk as independent republics after shelling intensified. This chess move by Putin is posturing as he seeks to extract security concessions from the West. The ball is now in Biden's court. Will Biden show strength to call off the upcoming meeting with Putin and does he have the balls to sanction NS2? Russia has yet to invade Ukraine so there's still room for diplomacy. However time is running out.

UPDATE: Biden responds by sanctioning the breakaway regions. Putin can smell weakness.