Will IVE be the first group to break the "Produce Curse"

i think it really depends on their concept and debut song. if they start out strong with a solid and consistent image and a good song, they could be big. the fact that they're a smaller group will work in their favor also.

they haven't shown their talents but they are already strong in the visual department (we all know how important visual is).

They already have exposure starship just needs to come through with the music.

I hope the girls' voices aren't like Izone's high voice. I really want to like this group.

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But Stayc didn't receive any hate either, and are doing the best after aespa out of 4th gen ggs. IVE's Leeseo unfortunately is already getting hate for her age, and there's already IVE stans claiming to be ot5 which is so ridiculous.

better start with shxt and end with gold. a perfect example on blackpink and aespa.

i saw it, she's 14, right? a lot of idols started at this age i don't understand what the storm is about. or maybe otherwise, I get it, but it's nothing new in kpop and people need to stop.

I just hope that the company will not treat her like a mature woman, because it is dangerous for her.

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better start with shxt and end with gold. a perfect example on blackpink and aespa.

i saw it, she's 14, right? a lot of idols started at this age i don't understand what the storm is about. or maybe otherwise, I get it, but it's nothing new in kpop and people need to stop.

I just hope that the company will not treat her like a mature woman, because it is dangerous for her.

Blackpink and aespa come from big3, big3 groups pretty much always get hate when they debut because they gather a lot of attention and have big shoes to fill. It's not comparable to non big3 groups. BTS is the biggest bg and they only actually started getting hate around 2016 when they started growing at insane pace.

Yeah I don't even think the age gap between her and the other members is that big, its like 3 years or something. Wonyoung herself debuted around the same age. I get that people might be uncomfortable about a child in the kpop industry, but the hate and ostracism is so dumb and unecessary. But the concern is valid. I hope Starship knows what they're doing and handle things well.

I certainly hope so.

Wonyoung is very popular in Korea, same with Yujin. And the group already has some buzz

Them debuting only 6 and not 12 or 9 members is a great step

Starship should do it right with giving them great songs and I believe they will be set

Im certainly looking forward to them

their teaser photos is more successful than all the groups you mention

I hope so and I imagine them doing avant garde photoshoots.

I think if they can fill in the niche that izone left then they can succeed

I think they could. Starship has done relatively well over the years with getting their groups to a solid B tier status. They're never in contention for the top group of their generation, but no one can deny that Monsta X, Boyfriend, Sistar, and K.Will have/had solid fanbases. WJSN and Cravity can get there too, I think, and IVE seems poised to be better off than both of them.

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I think they could. Starship has done relatively well over the years with getting their groups to a solid B tier status. They're never in contention for the top group of their generation, but no one can deny that Monsta X, Boyfriend, Sistar, and K.Will have/had solid fanbases. WJSN and Cravity can get there too, I think, and IVE seems poised to be better off than both of them.

If SSE manages to replicate Sistar's relevancy in SK with Monsta X's success in the west and combine both in IVE then this gg might end up becoming SSE's biggest group.

Like damn imagine if they get consecutive number #1s like Sistar and simultaneously chart on bbtop5 like MX? That would be freaking massive.

We still need to hear their debut song. But the fact alone that, right off the bat, the group does not look like a "produce alumni & Co. " to me is a very good sign

Looking back at this feels really good right now. I don’t think anyone expected IVE to do this well

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Looking back at this feels really good right now. I don’t think anyone expected IVE to do this well

Indeed, the biggest indicator was Eleven's spotify streams, it beat every produce debut on the platform by a mile

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Looking back at this feels really good right now. I don’t think anyone expected IVE to do this well

I really hope the girls will continue to be successful and releasing good songs