are aespas achievments unusual for a rookie group?

As someone mentioned above

yes it's unusual for SM groups since their rookies usually will blow up one year or few year later not less than a year like aespa.

Also, sm gg usually had weak album sale compare to other big3 but aespa broke the curse.

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As someone mentioned above

yes it's unusual for SM groups since their rookies usually will blow up one year or few year later not less than a year like aespa.

Also, sm gg usually had weak album sale compare to other big3 but aespa broke the curse.

Not really about the physical sells part: ses and and SNSD had good sales, SNSD even won't a daesang for it, it's more FX and RV not doing as well compared to GG's of their gen

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Not really about the physical sells part: ses and and SNSD had good sales, SNSD even won't a daesang for it, it's more FX and RV not doing as well compared to GG's of their gen

yeah but it happened nearly a decade ago

I think Blackpink had a PAK at debut so that’s earlier than Aespa. Ofc their album situation is different and album sales has grown a lot in kpop so maybe direct comparison of sales isn’t possible across generations.

But digital hits by big3 GGs is nothing new and expected.

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Thanks for actually answering as opposed to the other users who took my thread as an insult somehow.

For a big3 group no.

they are doing better then previous SM rookies tho,

rookie is the first 2 years but il try to keep it as close to 1 year as possible. all the songs I list you can google achievements, they were all huge

heres a list

TWICE - Cheer up and TT

BLACKPINK - Whistle, PWF, and AAIYL

Miss A - Good girl bad girl

theres a couple more, but yea.

just going to say, and this is going to trigger many

today i noticed

that all Aespa threads are : the top gg record for 4 GEN

or something like that, but the 4 gen is always....there

am i answering your question?

and now i am prepairing myself for the sh** storm, Mys love me

Not really I mean twice basically had back to back national hits when they were rookies

For Big 3 girl groups? Not unusual, but maybe for SM.

RV's debut was not as popular as expected.

In *2nd* Gen, tho? 2NE1's monster rookie-dom was (and honestly is still) unchallenged & commonly known as "The Best Most Iconic KPOP Debut Ever".

2NE1's "Fire" which completely smashed all records & previous conceptions of what Korean girl groups (& their concepts) could be, that they could be fierce, powerful & badass.

2NE1 were the Inventors of "girl crush" concept in KPOP. which was previously dominated by SNSD's cute image in "Gee". 2NE1 Won #1 on a music show w/their 2nd live performance (or similar) honestly.

You also have Miss A's "Bad Girl Good Girl", which also earned them the name "Monster Rookies". Another "Most Iconic Debut Ever".

A lingering Miss A fan can fill you in on the deets, but their debut was quite record-smashing as well or so I've heard.

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As someone mentioned above

yes it's unusual for SM groups since their rookies usually will blow up one year or few year later not less than a year like aespa.

Also, sm gg usually had weak album sale compare to other big3 but aespa broke the curse.

SNSD AND SES were huge physical sellers of their gens. SNSD is in fact a heavy outlier that they were able to surpass and win daesang against top boy groups of their era.

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SNSD AND SES were huge physical sellers of their gens. SNSD is in fact a heavy outlier that they were able to surpass and win daesang against top boy groups of their era.

Like i said after this reply (maybe my answer is not clear), it has been nearly a decade since sm gg become huge physical sellers finally aespa followed their path

Aespa's achievement is impressive, but is it something new? NO

1) 2ne1 debut with 2 back to back hit, with the second song I dont care winning SOTY

2) Miss A won SOTY too with debut

3) BP's debut Whistle achieved PAK and was the fastest to win music show (at that time)

4) Twice's first comeback with Cheer Up literally made them the NGG.

So in comparison, what aespa achieved seems achieveable (no intention of undermining them) but for SM groups, i think it is very good. For SM groups, public tends to take some time to warm up to them, like f(x), red velvet and EXO didnt become popular with the general public till their 3rd or 4th releases. So yes, aespa is somehow in line (3rd release Next level or 2nd if dont count Forever). Red velvet garnered traction with Ice cream cake (4th song)

Yes. And they did it with fucking weird experimental song. Not a public friendly one. That a huge feat!

As people have mentioned it's unusual for SM rookies more than anything else.

Twice's first year had the biggest pop song in SK and the biggest kpop song in Japan. Their album also sold 3 times more than the next girl group.

BP had their PAK on debut and international success.

2NE1 had a huge start in terms of digital hits.

Unusual for SM rookies yea, but also it’s a feat that aespa doesn’t need that 4th gen qualifier on their names to compete on some of the schievements set by their legendary sunbaes.