Do obsessive fans know that they're crossing the limit?

Yeah, but they still do it. Some for attention imo or to be smart or just to prove a point. They give you negative reactions just for not liking a group or song, I mean how immature. Dealing with fans is the worst part of it.

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If they create such limits, then they wouldn't have fans bulk-buying over 100 albums just to get into a fansign to talk to their idols for like 1 minute.

What is sadder is that you'd think that only teenagers can be this easily influenced and manipulated by the industry but there are plenty of people over 20 years old (or even older) who fall into dangerous obsessive territories. It might have something to do with our society which is full of people with low self-esteem and depression, that it affects adults so badly as well.

My personal opinion is that most people who get dependent and obsessed over something (alcohol, drugs, K-pop in this case etc.) are people who have some unresolved problems with themselves. The "boyfriend" fantasy that K-pop idols are creating is basically catering to women and girls with low-self esteem, who don't feel loved and want to feel special for someone, and that's what this industry is basically providing. Same for the female idols and their male fans.

You can compare this with the so-called "otaku culture", with men (and sometimes women) being obsessed over anime characters to the point of buying pillows and other things (btw, there are also idol pillows in K-pop). Society is making fun of them usually, pointing out that they're unattractive, nerds that don't fit in socially with other people etc., but the premise is the same, they're people with low-self esteem who want to feel loved and special, but they don't have someone to provide them this and choose this entertainment industry to fill their need for love and appreciation.

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Yep, 100% agree with what you said. Kpop companies know exactly what they’re doing when they push the bf/gf fantasy. The fans with self awareness know it’s all bs but the fans with serious low self esteem issues or other issues in their life are easily misled and will buy into the fantasy. This fantasy fuels their obsession.

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I can't believe I reached that point where I compared K-pop fans with Otaku people

I mean…there’s definitely some users on here that suit that comparison but I’m not gonna be messy and name them

well if one is that obsessed to the point of waiting outside someone's hotel rooms and such then they probably don't realise the limit or choose to not care...

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Ahem, this should be the other way around, darling.

Fuck the others, be more optimistic for yourself!

Unfortunately for you I am not like that.

It’s prolly an escape tool from their own life which might be something that’s not doing well.

Obsession is something that needs treatment. And I believe if more people went to therapy instead of fixating on something it’d help them.

they know but they just can't help it, it's like an addiction, they just cannot stop : /

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I can't believe I reached that point where I compared K-pop fans with Otaku people

And a lot of anime fans hate on kpop fans for excessiveness and obsession over people, when a good number of otakus are obesessed with drawn people. Lmao

I mean if they know it they wouldn't do it