Is it just me or is Treasure's fandom growing at an alarming rate?

  • So treasure debuted less than 5 months ago yet they're already million seller's, have hundreds, no thousands of loyal fans, and their fanodms voting power is HUGE as well, and they've topped japan charts over and over again with no promotions, I wonder how big their japan debut is going to be? It's on this march and I'm really exicted :D , Also I've noticed that even tho they released singles back to back they still sold very well, and if the fandom wasn't growing then their sales would be on the decline. monster rookies. :pepe-smug:

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  • Probably because of the survival show. It brings a lot exposure. Like Enhyphen.


    Plus there are many YG stans.


    Edit: I am not saying they are not good. They are, it's just that being in a survival show probably helped a lot. You know how KPop works.

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  • Love seeing this tbh :siptear:

    They lost so many fans after their silence radio and not debuting for almost 2 years after their survival so the fact they could gather so many fans despite it show a lot about their talent. Most of fans I know noticed them for Tmap + predebut covers since they were really talented. Not sure why some people think they are only popular because of YGTB imo. I mean they debuted 2 years after the end of this show and lost all the hype/fans of this show or almost. Not every kpop fans are ready to wait 2 years lmao.


    I'm ready to see Treasure as a top group. They have all to success too. Great vocal line, great rap line, already a great stage presence, great dancers, their visual is lit and everyone can find their fav since it's diverse, they can compose their own things (please YG, let them release it!!) and they are really stannable. Tmap is a really trap, impossible to not become a OT12 after watching it.


    Their songs aren't bad too and are already diverse. I feel like people who don't stan them are anti YG (because of their scandals) and people who didn't give them a chance yet.


    Still really want Asahi, Yedam, Junkyu, etc composition. I can't only survive with Orange.

    And tbh, their composition style seem really R&B + Pop and this style is becoming really rare these days so it would help them to stand out more. Yedam love put some autotune in his songs too so people who love autotune could love his songs.

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  • Yess they WILL be a top tier group, they are already on the way to be top tier, people who dont stan them are mostly anti yg or bh stans since they stan their own groups.

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  • They have strong voting power because fans are willing to make multiple accounts.


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  • Treasure have the power to attract new people very easily.
    Because they're talented, adorable and crackheads.

    They're not bland or just idol manufactured by a company. They seem human and are very natural!

    That's why more and more people are becoming Teumes.

    Even if they don't chart well in Korea (SK isn't everything in 2021), they sell huge all over the world, that means a lot.

    And I don't think YG Treasure Box is the reason.

  • Probably because of the survival show. It brings a lot exposure. Like Enhyphen.


    Plus there are many YG stans.


    Edit: I am not saying they are not good. They are, it's just that being in a survival show probably helped a lot. You know how KPop works.

    Not really. A lot of fans left during the 2 years gap after the survival show. The show didn't really interest me to be a fan. I only become one after watching T-map and all the other pre-debut contents.


    So, to answer the question, I think the fandom is growing because Treasure has been to numerous award shows and won ROTY. Hence, curious people will start checking out their contents. Once they watched how crackhead these 12 boys are, they can't help but fall in love with them. :dancer:

  • I mean how it's possible to not love this?

    Their fanservice >>>>

    You can feel they really love their fans and are happy for debuting. They never see their fans irl beside some who wait them faaaaaar in front of YG building or with online fansign.

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    Tbh, it was the only group since a while, being rookie, who were really hype and always show how happy they are. They feel more real. I prefer them over these groups who try to be too perfect.

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  • So, to answer the question, I think the fandom is growing because Treasure has been to numerous award shows and won ROTY. Hence, curious people will start checking out their contents.

    Those people are success stans and so is everyone who is obsessed with metrics.

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  • Not because you start stanning a group you didn't know before an award show that it means you're an illegitimate teume

    Success stans are still fans. They're not illegitimate. They just lack individuality and discernment.

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  • Well it's not surprising seeing their talent, visuals, variety content and overall charisma. There are not much unique 4th gen bgs out there rn. Treasure is fortunatelly one of the most unique ones out there which gives them a huge edge. I'm loving the positive reaction they are getting from both international and korean fans these days. They are gonna become one of the biggest 4th generation groups by far... :danceb:

  • But their albums are selling the same?


    Not sure if the fandom is growing that fast. It looks like the same set of fans buying the 3 single albums and the full album. Better to assess the sales trend, did the full album sell more than the debut single album?

    Their albums sold more each comeback though.


    If you watch their Hanteo sales. Their debut sold 160k first week + 218k for Gaon (1st month).

    While they full album sold 200k first week (despite ktown4u having problem to send albums) and we still don't know their 1st month sales for Gaon. It's already 40k difference only on Hanteo for 1st week. And it's with not a lot promotions because as you said, most of their fans are the same as debut. Let's not forget YG only put them on 2 music shows (finally have 3 now) and beside weekly idol, they went on none korean show (we could argue for KOMS with Yedam and Hidden singer with Yedam, Jihoon + Jeongwoo though). Beside it, they only promote with YT videos or Vlive the day of their comeback. Fact a new fanbase of 5 months didn't dry out when many fanbase need many years before be solid to be able to buy anything from their group said a lot. Let's not forget streaming + vote power of Teumes are really strong. Did you see these 6M only on SMA? They already have more 200M views only with their 4 MVs (+ going crazy who is a performance video). Treasure have this disavantage for debuting 2 years after their survival show, debuting on YG when they are at their low because of scandals + having most of YG "stan" against them. If you saw all hate they got from Blinks :clown: But they still do great despite it and their fanbase is growing really quick. They are always in top mention of groups on twitter too and were on BBS50 since before their debut and only rise (if it wasn't for the break right now, they would still be there rising)

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  • Their albums sold more each comeback though.


    If you watch their Hanteo sales. Their debut sold 160k first week + 218k for Gaon (1st month).

    While they full album sold 200k first week (despite ktown4u having problem to send albums) and we still don't know their 1st month sales for Gaon. It's already 40k difference only on Hanteo for 1st week. And it's with not a lot promotions because as you said, most of their fans are the same as debut. Let's not forget YG only put them on 2 music shows (finally have 3 now) and beside weekly idol, they went on none korean show (we could argue for KOMS with Yedam and Hidden singer with Yedam, Jihoon + Jeongwoo though). Beside it, they only promote with YT videos or Vlive the day of their comeback. Fact a new fanbase of 5 months didn't dry out when many fanbase need many years before be solid to be able to buy anything from their group said a lot. Let's not forget streaming + vote power of Teumes are really strong. Did you see these 6M only on SMA? They already have more 200M views only with their 4 MVs (+ going crazy who is a performance video).

    But I'm not arguing about the big fandom size, it's rather the "alarming" fandom growth that I can't see

  • But I'm not arguing about the big fandom size, it's rather the "alarming" fandom growth that I can't see

    Just the fact that the sales didn't decreased with such short time between all the release proves that they're getting really bigger.

    Plus, you can tell that by the amount of views on the first Treasure Map of this season: it's already one of the most viewed episode in less than a week.

  • Just the fact that the sales didn't decreased with such short time between all the release proves that they're getting really bigger.

    Plus, you can tell that by the amount of views on the first Treasure Map of this season: it's already one of the most viewed episode in less than a week.

    Maybe


    Guess we need to wait their next comeback with a proper 6 to 8 months hiatus to know better

  • But I'm not arguing about the big fandom size, it's rather the "alarming" fandom growth that I can't see

    They were almost nowhere at their debut but lately they were always in top groups people mentions on twitter (crazy when you know they are the one with less followers among all top 20 imo) , win almost all polls they are one (even against sunbaes), their sales rise, their digital already become more stable and rise too, their channel hit 3.3M followers when they had barely 1M predebut, they are always in top5 of most mentionned group on pann, they entered 23th place on korean brand group in december and rise to 15th place this January already and are constant on Billboard high ranks. If it's not a alarming fandom growth, then I'm not sure what is it?


    I would like see another 4gen group who could achieve so much in only 5 months? You can find one right?


    At this point, I think it wouldn't be an exageration to say Treasure already have his place among top gen 4 groups and they are only 5 months :clown:

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  • They were almost nowhere at their debut but lately they were always in top groups people mentions on twitter (crazy when you know they are the one with less followers among all top 20 imo) , win almost all polls they are one (even against sunbaes), their sales rise, their digital already become more stable and rise too, their channel hit 3.3M followers when they had barely 1M predebut, they are always in top5 of most mentionned group on pann, they entered 23th place on korean brand group in december and rise to 15th place this January already and are constant on Billboard high ranks. If it's not a alarming fandom growth, then I'm not sure what is it?


    I would like see another 4gen group who could achieve so much in only 5 months? You can find one right?


    At this point, I think it wouldn't be an exageration to say Treasure already have his place among top gen 4 groups and they are only 5 months :clown:

    I only follow sales/charting, never felt like SNS was that meaningful

  • THE FIRST STEP : CHAPTER ONE

    Format: 1st Single Album
    Release Date: August 7th, 2020
    1st Day Sales (Hanteo): 121,943 copies sold
    1st Week Sales (Hanteo): 160,612 copies sold
    1st Month Sales (Gaon): 218,118 copies sold (#2)
    Total Sales in South Korea (Gaon): 247,983 copies sold
    247,983 copies sold in 2020


    THE FIRST STEP : CHAPTER TWO
    Format: 2nd Single Album

    Release Date: September 18th, 2020
    1st Day Sales (Hanteo): 114,450 copies sold
    1st Week Sales (Hanteo): 169,586 copies sold
    1st Month Sales (Gaon): 219,314 copies sold (#4)
    Total Sales in South Korea (Gaon): 239,326 copies sold
    239,326 copies sold in 2020


    Format: 3rd Single Album

    Release Date: November 6th, 2020
    1st Day Sales (Hanteo): 118,768 copies sold
    1st Week Sales (Hanteo): 171,773 copies sold
    1st Month Sales (Gaon): 218,855 copies sold (#5)
    Total Sales in South Korea (Gaon): 232,134 copies sold
    232,134 copies sold in 2020


    "growth*

  • I defy you to give this much comebacks to Itzy in only 5 months and we'll see if it's this stable.

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  • What the-

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    Furthermore, I am kinda okay with it as we had to watch the group face delay after delay and postponed debut dates over and over. I wish them nothing but the most success. I do not own them, I nor anyone else gets to delegate who can and cannot be their fan.

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  • LMAOOO where's the full album? and lmaoooo how about you try to give this comebacks to your faves and see how much they sell? probably wont even surpass 100k much less 200k :eyes::pepe-hehe:

    Not another one jealous and threatned by a 5 MONTH OLD rookie groups acheivments, it's okay keep on feeling threatned, we all know your faves could never. :pepe-hehe::pepe-tea:

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  • My fandom has shown me over and over again that it is an example of loyalty and consistency <3

  • LMAOOO where's the full album? and lmaoooo how about you try to give this comebacks to your faves and see how much they sell? probably wont even surpass 100k much less 200k :eyes::pepe-hehe:

    Not another one jealous and threatned by a 5 MONTH OLD rookie groups acheivments, it's okay keep on feeling threatned, we all know your faves could never. :pepe-hehe::pepe-tea:

    1st Full Album <THE FIRST STEP : TREASURE EFFECT> 1,100 copies sold (213,042 total)

    e/ 1,166 copies sold (217,722 total)

    gotta wait for GAON, its why i didnt list

  • Why you did not post the full album?

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