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I think this channel is better at vocal ranking
Yes but he's not as blunt he sugar coats a lot an idol can be screeching like a goat for their whole career and he'll still say they have room for improvement 
This coach vocal is gold (kpop girl group)
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He/she put Wendy on B tier along with Taeyeon and Hyorin and said no one is A tier (kinda agree with A tier).
Also they didn’t mention Ningning in the video at all but people brought her up in the comments and he/she said she’s safe C.
The other members weren’t brought up either in the video or comments except Winter including her in the same tier as Lia but I forgot which one because the video was so messy. They just put pictures and one explanation for all and include a random video of one person. This person seems immature level and as I said before doesn’t know the content of all the groups he/she listed but still decided to shove them all in anyway to make the ranking and it ended up being as messy as your posts. He/she said they just started learning and you already call him/her vocal coach?
The low views got me wondering if it was your video and you were trying to promote it
. It’s like any kpop video fans make daily on YouTube yet you are taking it for granted lol. But I am not expecting YOU to answer me properly on AKP. You will probably say random shit like: vocal coach is not me…I like apples…xx voice is flat unlike xx voice is roundest -
He/she put Wendy on B tier along with Taeyeon and Hyoyeon and said no one is A tier (kinda agree with A tier).
Also they didn’t mention Ningning in the video at all but people brought her up in the comments and he/she said she’s safe C.
The other members weren’t brought up either in the video or comments except Winter including her in the same tier as Lia but I forgot which one because the video was so messy. They just put pictures and one explanation for all and include a random video of one person. This person seems immature level and as I said before doesn’t know the content of all the groups he/she listed but still decided to shove them all in anyway to make the ranking and it ended up being as messy as your posts. He/she said they just started learning and you already call him/her vocal coach?
The low views got me wondering if it was your video and you were trying to promote it
. It’s like any kpop video fans make daily on YouTube yet you are taking it for granted lol. But I am not expecting YOU to answer me properly on AKP. You will probably say random shit like: vocal coach is not me…I like apples…xx voice is flat unlike xx voice is roundestWat! Hyoyeon at the same tier as Wendy and Tayeon? I can't. She is a main dancer in snsd for a reason. Never known for her vocal. This is why I can't take this so call vocal coach rating on kpop idol seriously. All these youtube channel just post an idol singing and label support notes. I don't know much about singing, but singing is not just all support.
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Wat! Hyoyeon at the same tier as Wendy and Tayeon? I can't. She is a main dancer in snsd for a reason. Never known for her vocal. This is why I can't take this so call vocal coach rating on kpop idol seriously. All these youtube channel just post an idol singing and label support notes. I don't know much about singing, but singing is not just all support.
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typooWelp, my point still stands on those videos that just label idol with support notes.
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Reggie Vu is more reliable imo.
Out of the 4th Gen groups, his ranking for female vocalists:
1 - Nayul (tho not sure if she counts as 4th gen)
2 - Yechan (Pink Fantasy) - she needs to be hyped more
3 - Monday (Weeekly) - yes she's also THAT good and needs to be talked about more
4 - This is where things get murky. Spot contenders are Jiwon (Fromis_9) and Yuri (iz*one). Jiwon has apparently regressed a lot since Sixteen.
6 - Lia (especially pre-debut)
Overall best vocal group - Aespa. They don't have a standout vocalist, but all of them can support so their average is higher than others. Weeekly's vocal line apart from Monday (Soeun, Jihan) are on the same level as Winter or Karina but they have a lot more members so it isn't as easy to be a standout vocal group.
Worst - StayC. They're good live but none of the members can support. Everglow is also a contender, but Mia is better than Sieun.
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Reggie Vu is more reliable imo.
Out of the 4th Gen groups, his ranking for female vocalists:
1 - Nayul (tho not sure if she counts as 4th gen)
2 - Yechan (Pink Fantasy) - she needs to be hyped more
3 - Monday (Weeekly) - yes she's also THAT good and needs to be talked about more
4 - This is where things get murky. Spot contenders are Jiwon (Fromis_9) and Yuri (iz*one). Jiwon has apparently regressed a lot since Sixteen.
6 - Lia (especially pre-debut)
Overall best vocal group - Aespa. They don't have a standout vocalist, but all of them can support so their average is higher than others. Weeekly's vocal line apart from Monday (Soeun, Jihan) are on the same level as Winter or Karina but they have a lot more members so it isn't as easy to be a standout vocal group.
Worst - StayC. They're good live but none of the members can support. Everglow is also a contender, but Mia is better than Sieun.
Did reggie vu say that?
Ningning is almost the same tier as Weeekly’s Monday lol. Ningning can support G3-C5 with main weakness being headiness. Monday has F#3/G3-C5 with main weakness being breathing inconsistencies. Both may have a c#5 in their arsenal, especially Ningning. Overall Monday’s stronger but ningning’s not THAT far away.
Yuri has, like B4 max afair and that’s only slightly better than Goeun and Winter
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Did reggie vu say that?
Ningning is almost the same tier as Weeekly’s Monday lol. Ningning can support G3-C5 with main weakness being headiness. Monday has F#3/G3-C5 with main weakness being breathing inconsistencies. Both may have a c#5 in their arsenal, especially Ningning.
Yuri has, like B4 max afair and that’s only slightly better than Goeun and Winter
Yes, that's their ranking of 4th gen. Monday has more consistent support and better resonance that Ningning from what I've heard. Monday's Let it Go cover is a good example.
Ningning is average for an SM main vocalist, but she isn't as bad as people say she is. However, I wouldn't go as far as saying she's as good as Monday.
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Yes but he's not as blunt he sugar coats a lot an idol can be screeching like a goat for their whole career and he'll still say they have room for improvement
This guy has no idea what he's talking about. I love all the members of SHINee, but he ranked Key above Taemin for technique when Key strains (he's being made to sing tenor notes as a baritone, so ofc he does) and barely supports because he's being forced to sing so high.
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Yes, that's their ranking of 4th gen. Monday has more consistent support and better resonance that Ningning from what I've heard. Monday's Let it Go cover is a good example.
Ningning is average for an SM main vocalist, but she isn't as bad as people say she is. However, I wouldn't go as far as saying she's as good as Monday.
I edited my response. Monday is overall stronger but she’s not THAT far behind nor Ningning is weaker than Yuri.
And both don’t really have resonance.
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Ariana still knows her stuff about singing. And she blew up initially not just with good music but bc she was media played as the young Mariah.
Moreover, her previous hits are vocal powerhouse songs: Break Free, Problem, Love Me Harder, The Way, etc.
she was media played?
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she was media played?
That’s her initial “image”. And the moniker was from media. There was even a point wherein she’s brought up in Mariah’s interview and Mariah saying “first of all I stopped aging” or smthn along those lines LMAO DHDIDBUDYBUS. Mariah is so iconic
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Reggie Vu is more reliable imo.
Out of the 4th Gen groups, his ranking for female vocalists:
1 - Nayul (tho not sure if she counts as 4th gen)
2 - Yechan (Pink Fantasy) - she needs to be hyped more
3 - Monday (Weeekly) - yes she's also THAT good and needs to be talked about more
4 - This is where things get murky. Spot contenders are Jiwon (Fromis_9) and Yuri (iz*one). Jiwon has apparently regressed a lot since Sixteen.
6 - Lia (especially pre-debut)
Overall best vocal group - Aespa. They don't have a standout vocalist, but all of them can support so their average is higher than others. Weeekly's vocal line apart from Monday (Soeun, Jihan) are on the same level as Winter or Karina but they have a lot more members so it isn't as easy to be a standout vocal group.
Worst - StayC. They're good live but none of the members can support. Everglow is also a contender, but Mia is better than Sieun.
Did this Reggie Vu person say Mia is the best singer in terms of supported vocals in Everglow? If this person did, then I don't trust their ratings at all. In terms of supported vocals, Sihyeon is by far much better than Mia but Mia is the better singer...
Like I said, in Pop music, just because a person has more supported range doesn't automatically make them a better singer... These rankings are so superficial.
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Did this Reggie Vu person say Mia is the best singer in terms of supported vocals? If this person did, then I don't trust their ratings at all. In terms of supported vocals, Sihyeon is by far much better than Mia but Mia is the better singer...
Like I said, in Pop music, just because a person has more supported range doesn't automatically make them a better singer... These rankings are so superficial.
They do NOT only rank supported range. They also consider intonation (if theyre on pitch, not flat or sharp) or vocal runs (if the notes are clear and separated, etc.) and many more aspects.
it’s just that it very rare to have those if the singer has no sense whatsoever of “proper” breathing. Like, there are literally singers in Reggie Vu’s ranking that has lesser supported range but higher ranking because they mastered their range so well that they can pretty much “style” it any way they want.
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They do NOT only rank supported range. They also consider intonation (if theyre on pitch, not flat or sharp) or vocal runs (if the notes are clear and separated, etc.) and many more aspects.
it’s just that it very rare to have those if the singer has no sense whatsoever of “proper” breathing. Like, there are literally singers in Reggie Vu’s ranking that has lesser supported range but higher ranking because they mastered their range so well that they can pretty much “style” it any way they want.
Right. And regardless of what people think, support IS important tbh. I think people who say it isn’t are trying to defend faves who can’t support lol
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