When adjusted for inflation TVXQ and SNSD had the biggest peak of all time

Mirotic is that song!

Congrats

but bts have even sold 4M with an album :confused:

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but bts have even sold 4M with an album :confused:

Shhh.. leave grandpa alone.. those are his happy pills, the olden 2nd gen era. Let’s leave quietly now while getting our acorns

BTS and Blackpink's numbers are not limited to just one or two countries and a niche who had no idea how to be a real fan.

Kpop was declining before bts & blackpink came in, they are the main reason it got this big worldwide, not snsd or tvxq lol. And tbh kpop as a whole is not even big outside of asia except for them

Hallyu wave was on the verge of being called dead yes. SNSD and TVXQ were big during their peak and digitally I'd argue SNSD are still bigger than BP in korea but the difference between streaming and download era has to be taken in consideration. Going by the Gallup report across multiple years, BTS has been more consistent and peaking higher than SNSD who previously were the biggest idol group.

Saying that SNSD and TVXQ were not big would be a short sighted claim though. They were huge at their respective peaks. Played stadiums in korea and japan and had hit songs. Not a lot of idol groups these days can claim that. In fact 4th gen is tragic and touring is big question mark at the moment.

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Shhh.. leave grandpa alone.. those are his happy pills, the olden 2nd gen era. Let’s leave quietly now while getting our acorns

Can't help but laugh at this one!

Though, SNSD is my GG at the old times, but it does not work that way! Anyway,

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Kpop was declining before bts & blackpink came in, they are the main reason it got this big worldwide, not snsd or tvxq lol. And tbh kpop as a whole is not even big outside of asia except for them

I don’t know what you are smoking but Kpop was definitely not declining before BTS or Blackpink came in

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I don’t know what you are smoking but Kpop was definitely not declining before BTS or Blackpink came in

of course an ex0 stan would say that O_o

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of course an ex0 stan would say that O_o

Nah really it wasn’t. Album sales were increasing, as were views and streams, as was international concerts and charting

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of course an ex0 stan would say that O_o

Exo literally revived the physical market, but go off I guess?

Also nice thread drew. Can you write an alternate reality where B1A4 conquers all of kpop, cause I think thats a little more realistic than your current scenario

How much would them sell if South Korea was the US?

That's an interesting theory. Would TVXQ also be competing with and beating top western artists of the time...?

SNSD, yes.

TVXQ has to compete with H.O.T, BIGBANG, EXO, and BTS.

Thanks