[theqoo] Official court documents from HYBE VS Min Heejin reveal that Min Heejin has refused HYBE's proposal of committing 'album push/sajaegi', meanwhile confirming that HYBE's groups have all benefited from such practices!

  • T/N: Album pushing = physical album sajaegi = record more sales to account for future *potential* album sales through pushing fansigns/fanmeetings



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    Based on the admitted facts above and the evidence presented, the following facts and circumstances can be recognized. Considering these comprehensively, the actions of plaintiffs A and B in raising the issue of “album pushing” against the defendant cannot be regarded as a material breach of the shareholders’ agreement sufficient to justify its termination.

    1. A May 17, 2024 article in BT media reported with the headline “BU” and subheading “BV” that “G was encouraged by D to engage in album pushing. Although G was advised that 100,000 units could be pushed to surpass the initial record during the release of CJ albums, G firmly refused because it violated F’s business philosophy. This is already known to be widespread within D’s label, but we request a rigorous investigation and transparent handling regarding whether there have been any transactions with subsidiaries under return conditions or any other transactions that could be perceived as albumpushing, and that strict measures be taken accordingly.” This reflected F’s statement dated April 16, 2024 (Exhibit 7-2, 52).
    2. (i) The defendant CEO V appears to have encouraged F to engage in album pushing by G. Furthermore, on August 4, 2023, D Japan’s Head of Management Planning also used the term “pushing volume,” suggesting that there were internal indications within D that could raise suspicions of album pushing.

      (ii) Following plaintiff A’s objections, D conducted an internal audit and confirmed that for two albums in 2023, each 70,000 units (14,000 in total) were sold under returnable conditions, and internal controls were strengthened and company regulations revised to prevent recurrence.

      (iii) On October 24, 2024, during a National Assembly inspection, two internal D documents suggested that initial shipment volumes (albums sold within the first week of release) were sold under returnable conditions. Additional purchases of 100,000 units were conductedunder returnable conditions after the June performance. Four instances of returnable-condition transactions were cited in the report. D’s Chief Operating Officer BZ also provided responses at the National Assembly inspection on April 22, 2024, consistent with the contents of CEO V’s email.

      (iv) It is acknowledged that inflating initial shipment volumes to promote chart rankings constitutes an act that undermines fair distribution and is subject to criticism.


    = In 2023, 70,000 copies of each of the two albums were sold, totaling 140,000 copies, with a returnable conditions. The company stated that it has strengthened internal controls and established a company policy to prevent recurrence.


    original post: here

    1. Their ⭐️world⭐️star⭐️BTS⭐️ have always been committing sajaegi, why are they revealing this after all this time? ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ


    2. Meanwhile, doesn't this confirm that BTS committed sajaegi?


    3. ㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎ We got them


    4. "They" only got famous through sajaegi, and they got famous for simply pretending to be famous ㅋㅋThey're just an idol group without any substance


    5. You should never believe a single thing around HYBE's "records", and they came in and ruined everything about K-pop


    6. The only thing they're good at is pushing albums and sajaegiㅋㅋㅋ


    7. It shows that Min Heejin turned down on pushing albumsfor NewJeans, meanwhile all the other HYBE groups have benefited from pushing albums


    8. The "center of the celebrity *area*" himself is doing albumpushing and sajaegi


    9. I don't like Min Heejin either, but everything she said was true


    10. BTS have been doing sajaegi since the beginning, their habits aren't going anywhere


    11. Where did LE SSERAFIM's fandom go here?


    12. The damage they've done is too huge


    13. Min Heejin fighting


    14. Wow so BTS did sajaegi? Crazy


    15. It's been more than official that they've committed albumpushing

  • Everyone other than hybe Stan’s already knew this right from 2017 lol.


    Hybe pioneered the trend of huge difference between hanteo and gaon/circle aka over shipping. It was always the topic of conversation for the longest time. Their sister company JYP is also famous for it back in the day but I doubt that’ll see the light of the day.


    SM joined that party late but they’re there now as well.


    Anyway fake it till you make it worked for HYBE because kpop Stan’s really are gullible and take charts way too seriously.


    Good for them.

  • I know people discussed it but it wasn’t actually confirmed in writing (just theorised with common sense :?: )


    This is just very messy! I feel so sorry for the groups and idols! Does this company just enjoy public humiliation?!


    Hybe employees should start applying elsewhere if they haven’t already it’s just going from bad to worse so publicly :oops: the whole brand is tarnished!

  • Don't throw stones in glass houses. All that harassment towards BP claiming their numbers were fake and YG used the media to tear down other groups while hyping up the only company confirmed to have done both of those things

    All the articles mentioning BP and BTS in the same headline and some armys saying it was all YGE doing when since 2013 Big Hit made sure to put BTS as #BigBangFanboys or putting BTS album sales as better than EXO when in that time EXO were the only million sellers, etc.

    This isn't new and they mastered it with all their groups....

  • too bad for HYBE that MHJ is not sold under returnable condition back to SM, the purchase is nonrefundable

    Hate or love her she’s coming across an honest person at least in court matters :!:


    Not exactly sure why HYBE thought they would get away with all of this knowing she was in on everything lol!


    Are they that arrogant :?: i understand to make it big you need a level of delusion but this is quite excessive!

  • Hate or love her she’s coming across an honest person at least in court matters :!:


    Not exactly sure why HYBE thought they would get away with all of this knowing she was in on everything lol!


    Are they that arrogant :?: i understand to make it big you need a level of delusion but this is quite excessive!

    the only wrong HYBE did is they didn't do proper background check on MHJ before they snatched her out from SM


    they should have at least talked to Soo Man Lee selfmate (ex boss) on how she performs during work and if she is cooperative as they would like her to be under their own company HYBE

  • imagine what they are doing with streams. Hybe groups dominating stream sus

    ahem there is a whole thread in akp about it :iconpepe:

  • No, it's literally confirmed in the verdict.

    What part of the verdict says they investigated these claims and namedropped the supposed groups?


    This lawsuit has nothing to do with these allegations, non of the parties submitted hard evidence about this situation. Neither was the judge's job to look at that non-existent evidence or prove what groups allegedly used it. NO GROUPS HAVE BEEN NAMED.


    The judge is acknowledging that MHJ had a right to respond an email and she did not commit a breach of trust...


    How does that email confirms anything on a case-by-case basis? The judge has not done any ruling about that matter. Stop with the bs

  • the only wrong HYBE did is they didn't do proper background check on MHJ before they snatched her out from SM


    they should have at least talked to Soo Man Lee selfmate (ex boss) on how she performs during work and if she is cooperative as they would like her to be under their own company HYBE

    I’m sure they did do the background research I mean if us users from Allkpop know this information a big company like Hybe certainly does! (One would hope!)


    Again it just comes across as arrogance or delusion or both :!: rather than learn from why SM and MHJ parted ways they decided to take her instead (probably to…. CRUSH AESPA/SM) only to have her destroy them from within! A dark ironic twist at the end!


    I guess they’re learning now :suure:


    Edit: jokes aside this isn’t even her fault! Hybe could have simply had 4 successful girl groups right now co existing! Njz, Lsfm, Illit and Katseye :!: different concepts, different types of music and different audiences! At the end greed and jealously destroyed it all :oops:

  • I’m sure they did do the background research I mean if us users from Allkpop know this information a big company like Hybe certainly does! (One would hope!)


    Again it just comes across as arrogance or delusion or both :!: rather than learn from why SM and MHJ parted ways they decided to take her instead (probably to…. CRUSH AESPA/SM) only to have her destroy them from within! A dark ironic twist at the end!


    I guess they’re learning now :suure:

    Soo Man Lee ( selfmate): "This is the difference between you and me, I can tame that wild horse but you can't"

  • Dude.


    "(ii) Following plaintiff A’s objections, D conducted an internal audit and confirmed that for two albums in 2023, each 70,000 units (14,000 in total) were sold under returnable conditions, and internal controls were strengthened and company regulations revised to prevent recurrence.

    (iii) On October 24, 2024, during a National Assembly inspection, two internal D documents suggested that initial shipment volumes (albums sold within the first week of release) were sold under returnable conditions. Additional purchases of 100,000 units were conductedunder returnable conditions after the June performance. Four instances of returnable-condition transactions were cited in the report. D’s Chief Operating Officer BZ also provided responses at the National Assembly inspection on April 22, 2024, consistent with the contents of CEO V’s email."


    All this + the fact that they offered it to MHJ too and she rejected it, it's obvious it's a common practice in the company. If you don't want to believe it and want to live in your bubble i can't care less, the facts are right there, don't reply to me there's not much to discuss.

  • Dude.


    "(ii) Following plaintiff A’s objections, D conducted an internal audit and confirmed that for two albums in 2023, each 70,000 units (14,000 in total) were sold under returnable conditions, and internal controls were strengthened and company regulations revised to prevent recurrence.

    (iii) On October 24, 2024, during a National Assembly inspection, two internal D documents suggested that initial shipment volumes (albums sold within the first week of release) were sold under returnable conditions. Additional purchases of 100,000 units were conductedunder returnable conditions after the June performance. Four instances of returnable-condition transactions were cited in the report. D’s Chief Operating Officer BZ also provided responses at the National Assembly inspection on April 22, 2024, consistent with the contents of CEO V’s email."


    All this + the fact that they offered it to MHJ too and she rejected it, it's obvious it's a common practice in the company. If you don't want to believe it and want to live in your bubble i can't care less, the facts are right there, don't reply to me there's not much to discuss.

    STOOOOOOP :SCREEECH: This is all lies bc my company would never do this!! Hybe is innocent, Love PD face card never declined!

  • Which verdict? I need proof of this. Because I recall that there was no actual verdict for sajaegi. It was what MHJ's side put forth in court.

    The verdict of the MHJ shareholders agreement case, it was published today and it has content proven in court about many things such as the album pushing and the plagiarism issue with convs of Hybe staff. They're still translating a lot of stuff but if you want a brief summary, everything that MHJ said is true. Cry me a river.

  • These people are hopeless. And the irony and obliviousness to call anyone else delusional.


    Oh boy.

    You are speaking to a mirror because I recall that those were MHJ's accusations and didn't a hater call to investigate BTS 2015-2017 sajaegi, reopen a case that had gone to court already and petition that BTS lose their order of cultural merit because of that? and nothing came out of that investigation into hybe? Cause last I checked BTS still have it. My memory ain't that bad.

  • You are speaking to a mirror because I recall that those were MHJ's accusations and didn't a hater call to investigate BTS 2015-2017 sajaegi, reopen a case that had gone to court already and petition that BTS lose their order of cultural merit because of that? and nothing came out of that investigation? Cause last I checked BTS still have it.

    Your recollection certainly takes precedence over the objective facts analyzed and ruled on by the courts, I agree. How could we have ever doubted the rulings that were handed down after literal years of back and forth when we have your immaculate memory to call upon when reviewing every minute detail of this dispute.


    Sorry, was that too verbose for you? Let me speak your language.


    BTSBTSBTSBTSBTSBTSBTSBTSBTSBTSBTSBTSBTSBTSBTSBTSBTSBTSBTSBTSBTSBTSBTSBTS

  • You are speaking to a mirror because I recall that those were MHJ's accusations and didn't a hater call to investigate BTS 2015-2017 sajaegi, reopen a case that had gone to court already and petition that BTS lose their order of cultural merit because of that? and nothing came out of that investigation into hybe? Cause last I checked BTS still have it. My memory ain't that bad.

    That was in 2015-2017, but if you look above, the internal investigation found "album push" tactics occurring in 2023.

  • Since 2017 buying their way, I mean paving the way!!

    You blinks are the most hypocritical people on existance.


    HYBE didn't even exist at the time, MHJ has not named BTS at all, it has never been part of her arguments, she has shown no proof about them, neither has she thrown any accusations about them.


    BTS HAS NOT BEEN NAMED HERE AT ALL, they have not even released any full album under HYBE, EVER.



    On the other hand BLACKPING was publicly exposed by Western media for BUYING THEIR YOUTUBE RECORDS MULTIPLE TIMES.


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    Read this again because their NAME WAS DIRECTLY EXPOSED, I know YOU already know all of this but pretend not to know.


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    No baseless accusations, no imaginary scenarios, no need to assume anything. No need to insert them in unrelated conflicts.


    BLACKPINK exposed for BUYING, ACTUALLY BUYING, World Records.

    Blackpink Bought their career on fake achievements.


    PROVED BY NAME


    I know you will spend your life, forever salty, knowing that Blackpink actually has been proven to be a fraud whilst you have to insert BTS where they have not been named.

  • The verdict of the MHJ shareholders agreement case, it was published today and it has content proven in court about many things such as the album pushing and the plagiarism issue with convs of Hybe staff. They're still translating a lot of stuff but if you want a brief summary, everything that MHJ said is true. Cry me a river.

    You sure? I could've sworn...hmm but let's go Google the shareholder court case and the verdict..


    So I found that the verdict was:

    • Put Option Validity: The court upheld Min’s exercise of her put option, ordering HYBE to pay her 25.5 billion KRW (approx. $17.7 million USD) for her shares in ADOR.
    • No Material Breach: The court found that HYBE’s unilateral termination of the shareholders' agreement in July 2024 was invalid because Min’s actions did not constitute a "material breach" of contract.
    • Independent Actions Allowed: The court deemed that Min's exploration of ways to make ADOR independent was within the scope of business judgment and not a direct attempt to damage ADOR.
    • Creative Concerns Justified: The court ruled that Min’s raising of concerns regarding ILLIT’s similarities to NewJeans was not a breach of duty, but rather a "legitimate issue to be raised".

    When I put sajaegi in my searches I get this akp and pan pop up. Can you post where the court agrees that HYBE did sajaegi?

  • You sure? I could've sworn...hmm but let's go Google the shareholder court case and the verdict..


    So I found that the verdict was:

    • Put Option Validity: The court upheld Min’s exercise of her put option, ordering HYBE to pay her 25.5 billion KRW (approx. $17.7 million USD) for her shares in ADOR.
    • No Material Breach: The court found that HYBE’s unilateral termination of the shareholders' agreement in July 2024 was invalid because Min’s actions did not constitute a "material breach" of contract.
    • Independent Actions Allowed: The court deemed that Min's exploration of ways to make ADOR independent was within the scope of business judgment and not a direct attempt to damage ADOR.
    • Creative Concerns Justified: The court ruled that Min’s raising of concerns regarding ILLIT’s similarities to NewJeans was not a breach of duty, but rather a "legitimate issue to be raised".

    When I put sajaegi in my searches I get this akp and pan pop up. Can you post where the court agrees that HYBE did sajaegi?

    Full verdict is here

    40-45

  • The fact that we're discussing how BP "bought" Youtube views (like the 99% of kpop groups) in a thread about Hybe being exposed in one of the biggest scandals of the industry is the perfect example to see the behaviour of Hybe group fandoms during this whole circus these last 2 years.


    Maybe, just maybe, you should leave the fucking childish fanwars and adress the elefant in the room. The company of your favs is corrupt, they're damaging the industry, lying to everybody, manipulating the media and using the people you stan to shield themselves. If you care about your favs, focus on Hybe.

  • You sure? I could've sworn...hmm but let's go Google the shareholder court case and the verdict..


    So I found that the verdict was:

    • Put Option Validity: The court upheld Min’s exercise of her put option, ordering HYBE to pay her 25.5 billion KRW (approx. $17.7 million USD) for her shares in ADOR.
    • No Material Breach: The court found that HYBE’s unilateral termination of the shareholders' agreement in July 2024 was invalid because Min’s actions did not constitute a "material breach" of contract.
    • Independent Actions Allowed: The court deemed that Min's exploration of ways to make ADOR independent was within the scope of business judgment and not a direct attempt to damage ADOR.
    • Creative Concerns Justified: The court ruled that Min’s raising of concerns regarding ILLIT’s similarities to NewJeans was not a breach of duty, but rather a "legitimate issue to be raised".

    When I put sajaegi in my searches I get this akp and pan pop up. Can you post where the court agrees that HYBE did sajaegi?

    Maybe stop using Google and search information properly wtf?


    Here you have the whole 61 pages verdict released few hours ago, where they mention all the things I'm talking about. Feel free to translate it yourself if you don't believe me and leave me alone, I can't care less about your opinion when everything is PROVEN IN COURT.


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