LSF and Illit were the groups HYBE were looking to shoehorn into Coachella when they tried to get 50% of AEG

Love how some people are taking this and running with it to hate on HYBE groups while ignoring the fact that all of this is

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about the alleged controversial attempt f

i mean who else would it be

who is surprised?

like WHO

the real issue is that by this level of payola and control, groups that are extremely successful with very popular songs just wouldn't have access to such a stage because hybe's payola botted groups who can barely hold a note, would have been chosen over them .

and THAT makes me really angry!

it's like they're obsessed with being on top and making lots of money but they don't give a flying f*ck about the gp and kpop fans, nor the music and the cultural impacts of popular artists.

hybe is a threat to kpop as a whole and to popular culture in general.

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Love how some people are taking this and running with it to hate on HYBE groups while ignoring the fact that all of this is

various serious sources reported this matter, atp 'alleged' is just a term to protect these sources from any potential legal issues.

and why would hybe even care to censor just a baseless rumour?

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various serious sources reported this matter, atp 'alleged' is just a term to protect these sources from any potential legal issues.

..and?

do different news sites reporting on dating rumors between two idols suddenly make that rumor true?

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and why would hybe even care to censor just a baseless rumour?

why do you think people sue for defamation?

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various serious sources reported this matter

Various news sources in the US and worldwide published the absolutely atrocious lie that the Nazi Gestapo ICE cvnt who murdered Renee Good had "internal bleeding" when multiple sources easily proved it wrong, showing he was fleeing from his home like a $2 bitch when the reports said he was supposedly in hospital.

just saying...

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Analysts described it as a strategic move to easily feature HYBE’s own idols, such as LE SSERAFIM and ILLIT, on Coachella and facilitate their entry into the U.S. market.

The way this is worded makes it sound less like

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LSF and Illit were the groups HYBE were looking to shoehorn into Coachella

and more like Sports Khan just basically used the names of the two "biggest" or well-known non-BTS Hybe groups from around that time.

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i mean who else would it be

Enhypen, TXT, Katseye, Cortis, TWS, BoyNextDoor?

Hybe poops out about 4 groups a year these days. Having continues control of who gets to go to Coachella could benefit a great many Hybe groups, there was indeed no need to single either of them out.

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there was indeed no need to single either of them out.

The question was who singled them out? Hybe or Sports Khan

The wording, to me, just makes it sound like Sports Khan just namedropped two Hybe acts.

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Enhypen, TXT, Katseye, Cortis, TWS, BoyNextDoor?

Hybe poops out about 4 groups a year these days. Having continues control of who gets to go to Coachella could benefit a great many Hybe groups, there was indeed no need to single either of them out.

Im not sure those first 3 would need Hybe to push them on the the Coachella card. Same with LSF who did it recently. The next 3 could do with a big western push. On a side note I hope they don't send Illit to Coachella just yet, I think it might be a bit soon for a big western festival.

Ofc it would be another excuse to hate those 2 groups

Who would 've knew

Kudos to who edited

oh and btw, "industry insiders" is just another name for jobless individuals who have nothing better to do than fish for clout.

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oh and btw, "industry insiders" is just another name for jobless individuals who have nothing better to do than fish for clout.

If we're talking about the Hybe Coachella deal, Hits magazine isn't really that type to make that up. Very reliable with Music news. Unless you're referring too this story about the 2 groups then I'd agree.

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On a side note I hope they don't send Illit to Coachella just yet,

I kind of hope they don't because even with modern Coachella being what it is, ILLIT's vibe just doesn't seem to match the Coachella vibe. Too cutesy and teen. Round peg, square hole.
LSF with their high energy and a bit more... girl crushiness, suits better.

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If we're talking about the Hybe Coachella deal, Hits magazine isn't really that type to make that up. Very reliable with Music news. Unless you're referring too this story about the 2 groups then I'd agree.

Generally.

I have always found it weird how "industry insiders" conveniently speak up to confirm some stupid rumor/allegations.

Is the HYBExCoachella news true? Probably.

But mentioning ILLIT and LE SSERAFIM is very obviously a ploy to incite hate.

They already shoehorned LSFM into Coachella, and it didn't exactly go well. Why do they wish to repeat past mistakes?

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They already shoehorned LSFM into Coachella, and it didn't exactly go well. Why do they wish to repeat past mistakes?

lol

what a stale take

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Enhypen, TXT, Katseye, Cortis, TWS, BoyNextDoor?

Hybe poops out about 4 groups a year these days. Having continues control of who gets to go to Coachella could benefit a great many Hybe groups, there was indeed no need to single either of them out.

i forgot about katseye but the others are irrelevant

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i forgot about katseye but the others are irrelevant

That's why you gotta put them in Coachella innit

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That's why you gotta put them in Coachella innit

that might backfire

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lol

what a stale take

Just because you don't like hearing it, that doesn't make it any less true. It's not like they've redeemed themselves.

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I kind of hope they don't because even with modern Coachella being what it is, ILLIT's vibe just doesn't seem to match the Coachella vibe. Too cutesy and teen. Round peg, square hole.
LSF with their high energy and a bit more... girl crushiness, suits better.

Agreed. I don't think they have the discography that will win over that crowd tbh. Maybe in a couple of years they can go, but at the moment I don't think it's suitable for them imo

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Just because you don't like hearing it, that doesn't make it any less true. It's not like they've redeemed themselves.

And what makes it true? The fact that they made it to the lineup a little over 2 years after debut?

That's simply nitpicking.

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And what makes it true? The fact that they made it to the lineup a little over 2 years after debut?

That's simply nitpicking.

I was referring to their actual performance, but if you want to talk about Hybe getting them through the door, well that is self-evident. Why else would they be there? Let's be real here, the Coachella people didn't call up Hybe and invite them.

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I was referring to their actual performance, but if you want to talk about Hybe getting them through the door, well that is self-evident. Why else would they be there? Let's be real here, the Coachella people didn't call up Hybe and invite them.

Imagine throwing shade at others regarding vocal when you stan Twice

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Imagine throwing shade at others regarding vocal when you stan Twice

You're throwing stones in a glass house with so many cracks in it that a light breeze could shatter the whole thing at any moment. So let's not.

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You're throwing stones in a glass house with so many cracks in it that a light breeze could shatter the whole thing at any moment. So let's not.

It took you so long to come up with such a low-tier clapback.

Geez. Flop.

Imma say it right now

Claiming LE SSERAFIM wasn't ready for Coachella is mostly right but claiming that they were manipulated into the lineup simply because they were 2-year-old group at the time is pretty stupid when AESPA wasn't even 1.5 years old when they performed at Coachella

I've never been about the whole "age determines what you deserve" tbh.

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Imma say it right now

Claiming LE SSERAFIM wasn't ready for Coachella is mostly right but claiming that they were manipulated into the lineup simply because they were 2-year-old group at the time is pretty stupid when AESPA wasn't even 1.5 years old when they performed at Coachella

I STILL sand by the argument that pretty much most of the on the ground, at the show, watching it actually live people had good things to say about the performance and tahts what is most important.

People with an axe to grind, who cant let go, who have serious alternate motivations, but mostly importantly weren't even there, are the ones who keep crying about it

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I STILL sand by the argument that pretty much most of the on the ground, at the show, watching it actually live people had good things to say about the performance and tahts what is most important.

People with an axe to grind, who cant let go, who have serious alternate motivations, but mostly importantly weren't even there, are the ones who keep crying about it

This.

A lot of the people who were actually there absolutely did not care about the performance not being pitch perfect. LE SSERAFIM showed up, served cvnt and energy and the crowd ate it up and had a good time.

The degenerates who dragged them for something they were genuinely proud of (rightfully so) simply because of a few bad moments towards the end of their perf are nothing more than well... degenerates.

I'll also stand by that

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It took you so long to come up with such a low-tier clapback.

Geez. Flop.

Keep it up and I'll start filling this thread with LSFM's Coachella vocals. Then we'll see who the flops really are.

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Keep it up and I'll start filling this thread with LSFM's Coachella vocals. Then we'll see who the flops really are.

Go right ahead.

I'm not the one who'll end up looking like a loser

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Go right ahead.

I'm not the one who'll end up looking like a loser

You won't, but they will.

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I was referring to their actual performance, but if you want to talk about Hybe getting them through the door, well that is self-evident. Why else would they be there? Let's be real here, the Coachella people didn't call up Hybe and invite them.

LSF did more than fine because people that went to the show and journalist thought they performed well. It's only deranged kpop fans that they did poorly

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Ever since BLACKPINK were first booked to perform at Coachella in 2019, K-pop’s presence on the festival’s stages has slowly become the norm rather than an oddity. This year, LE SSERAFIM have set a new record, becoming the fastest-invited K-pop group to perform here, making their mark in the desert before their two-year anniversary. It’s a reflection of the impact the five-piece have already made on the music scene, carving out a space for themselves as a badass girl gang with a grungy edge.

That feeling shines through from the first moment of their set tonight (April 13). Joined by a live band, the members strut onto stage one by one to the grinding riffs of ‘Good Bones’, taking their individual moment in the spotlight but coming together as one powerful entity. As they launch into ‘Antifragile’, it’s clear they didn’t come to play – and that they get what the energy of a festival performance should be. The chorus lines become chanted boasts of the group’s toughness, their full-bodied shouts matching the crunch of their backing band and getting the crowd hyped up further.

Where K-pop can often be focused on pristine perfection, LE SSERAFIM’s set loosens things up and brings out a new rawness. The viral ‘Eve, Psyche & the Bluebeard’s wife’ feels even more electrifying on this stage, its closing “girls wanna have fun” rally a call to arms the group immediately answers with the bright ‘Perfect Night’. ‘Smart’, meanwhile – preceded by Huh Yunjin cheekily asking the crowd: “Are you ready to shake some fucking ass?” – becomes even more irresistible, with pockets of the crowd break into groups performing their own takes on the hip-swinging choreography.

As they take a final bow, all stood in a line with hands clasped, they can’t help but show their excitement about what they’ve just done. Torsos still bent towards the floor, the five members giddily shake their still-interlocked hands, an action that wordlessly screams, “We did it”. If “it” is put on a fierce, fun performance that makes the Sahara stage their own, even if just for 40 minutes, then LE SSERAFIM certainly did.

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They aslo received positive remarks from la times and billboard. The hate train never made any sense because they actually did a good job and people enjoyed their performance.

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LSF did more than fine because people that went to the show and journalist thought they performed well. It's only deranged kpop fans that they did poorly

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They aslo received positive remarks from la times and billboard. The hate train never made any sense because they actually did a good job and people enjoyed their performance.

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Reviews paid for by Hybe. One needn't be "deranged" to figure this one out.

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Reviews paid for by Hybe. One needn't be "deranged" to figure this one out.

So you're saying journalist and actual festival goers were paid to say they enjoyed the show? I don't like Hybe but kpop fans always making up tales about the company to put down their groups.

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So you're saying journalist and actual festival goers were paid to say they enjoyed the show? I don't like Hybe but kpop fans always making up tales about the company to put down their groups.

The audience was made up of their own fans. They don't need to be paid in order to lie and say the performance was good.

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You won't, but they will.

who? LSF? losing?

Hmm.

I wonder who earned 7.9 million dollars for their very first tour vs who's currently a random user on the internet yapping about and downplaying a group of women who are actually putting themselves out there, living their best lives while getting bag

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They already shoehorned LSFM into Coachella, and it didn't exactly go well. Why do they wish to repeat past mistakes?

because bango will never stop trying with that group ijbol, even in 20 years he will be pushing these chops to the moon and beyond hoping they will miraculously hit it big like bp and njs .

sh*ts personal you know .