Unpopular opinion - more and more kpop idols are coming from wealth?

  • IMO gone are the days of regular working class people debuting as kpop idols :/ rare!


    It feels like majority of idols (specifically 5th gen) are born with a golden spoon :oops:


    Not spreading hate! People are allowed to be whatever they want :!: it just feels like now people are primarily after the celebrity status? As they already came from wealthy beginnings? Compared to previously where majority of kpop idols came from humble beginnings and wanted to get rich! lol

  • cuz wealth= easy access to beauty: beauty procedures/products/better clothes, easier connections, more access to training/ specialized lessons which general public dont have.

    Idol companies don't care they are very shallow- we know this. If you look good, **sound ok**, and can maybe dance a little, so long as you look the part, you're in. ;judgingpepe:

  • cuz wealth= easy access to beauty: beauty procedures/products/better clothes, easier connections, more access to training/ specialized lessons which general public dont have.

    Idol companies don't care they are very shallow- we know this. If you look good, **sound ok**, and can maybe dance a little, so long as you look the part, you're in. ;judgingpepe:

    Well you know the saying… money talks :!:


    I just hope those buying their way in really have the passion for music/ performing and are not after the quick influencer route :oops: if you’re talented, you’re talented regardless if you’re born wealthy or not!

  • It's 100% the fans fault.


    So, I don’t understand why people bother about in it kpop when fans are mostly there for the visuals, fan service, ego and fantasy rather than the talent or passion itself. The shoe just fits. Being a kpop idol doesn’t necessarily require talent. As long as you debut in kpop, some rabid, deaf-and-blind fans will pretend that you're the most talented person ever exist and defend you no matter what. These rich kids saw that as an easy opportunity to get popular. The fans set the rules, so don’t blame the company 🤷🏻‍♀️

  • This has always been the case.


    We're talking about young children who become trainees for companies, with exorbitant costs, and if you don't get accepted, you've fallen many years behind in your academic career. This requires a lot of present and future sacrifice with a huge impact on the financial aspect.


    Obviously, the most modest or even average families cannot afford such a sacrifice at all, nor can they sacrifice the educational path of their children, which is often the only chance they have of social progress.


    Idols from modest or poor families can be counted on the fingers of one hand, mainly for this reason. They all come from at least well-off families, what seems to bother everyone is that with the international breakthrough of kpop, this now also attracts children from the wealthiest families.

  • It's most likely better for idols that come from wealth to join the industry. The success rate for a kpop idol is very low, and a person that comes from wealth has a better chance to bounce back in life. Meanwhile, it's much harder for a person that doesn't come from wealth to get their life back on track. They could end up in not the best choices if things fail because it might be costly or more difficult to get education and find a good career path.


    We've all seen some of the horror stories when idols or actors that didn't come from well off family and are used as meal tickets.

  • Well you know the saying… money talks :!:


    I just hope those buying their way in really have the passion for music/ performing and are not after the quick influencer route :oops: if you’re talented, you’re talented regardless if you’re born wealthy or not!

    I've said it it a lot, if you have a really passion for music, particularly for creation and control of your music, you don't go to a manufactured industry where 90% of that is done for you and you are essentially the "model wearing other people's work". If you have a true passion for music, you go it alone, through the blood, sweat and tears, even if you never make it that big.


    With so much focus on the industry these days, both in SK and abroad, about how brutal the trainee process is, about how manufactured groups are, about the real level of control and idol does/doesn't have, I think many people with a genuine passion are probably steering clear.


    Which means you're more likely to get people going there who want to see it more as a springboard to other things. Fame, influencing, celebrity etc. And why not use the connections money and power bring to get you to a field that might just get you those things, especially if you're a pretty young thing?

  • As I said in the other thread - the biggest benefit from wealth is the safety net it affords you if things fail...


    rich people have the luxury of being able to fail again and again and again - the poor don't

  • More margin of error.


    Even in 2011, Jung Eunji, a laborer's daughter, had planned to become a vocal trainer and did not think about becoming a singer. However, she got lucky, because the guy who organized APink was impressed by IU and felt APink needed a vocalist.


    Kim Sejeong got lucky because at the first Produce there was no real criteria. She is probably the last to have come from the bottom ; after her , none.


    It appears none of the Illit members appear to have come from a rich family, which by itself is rare. Yunah and Wonhee come from the countryside, Minju comes from the suburbs (middle class, not rich), Moka's family run a bakery in Saga, far from a major city, and not much is known about iroha but she is probably like Sana's


    That makes Illit probably last important KPop act without a rich member.

  • Knowing the K-pop system, it's better this way.

    Training is expensive, and the debts some idols accumulate are painful.


    Your faves are lucky to pay back their training in just 6 months to a year after debut. Others have been in the industry for 4 to 5 years and still haven’t received their first paycheck.


    I’m tired of seeing nugu idols working side jobs on top of being idols, all for nothing in the end. These agencies are all scams, and it’s basically modern-day slavery. At least if they have rich parents, they can recover quickly and move forward.


    So no, I'm neither against nor offended by rich kids becoming K-pop idols.


    Personally, if you come from a struggling family, it's always better to go to Big 4, if you go to nugu agencies, things will get worse.

  • Yes, because companies need to spend less and most of them already fits in the outdated Korean standards, not to mention, Koreans are OBSESSED with chaebols. Especially if they have some nice controversy.

  • Kim Sejeong got lucky because at the first Produce there was no real criteria. She is probably the last to have come from the bottom ; after her , none.

    What do you mean there were no real criteria? Sejeong literally earned the nickname "GOD SEJEONG", because she was #1 in every category!


    Also, she wasn't the last one who came from the bottom. 3rd gen had many Idols who came from average family. They're just not popular enough for obv reasons.

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