Has 5th Gen started?
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this gen thing has because such a fraudulent crap.
companies want to push the new gen crap so they don't have to compete with more popular groups achievements. whishing they will become the 'new' gens leaders.
pathetic.
'5th' gen groups are generally the most pathetic, money grabing, opportunistic, creativly bankrupt, boring crap that ever happened in kpop.
somehow the industry is being exessively overtaken by some greedy egotic businessmans who only care about quick short cut success, numbers and achievements for money or bragging purpose only.
creativity, artistry, all elements of authenticity are disapearing from the industry, birthing chains of bland copycates and ruining everything.
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Get with the times! Apparently we’re in 6th gen according to some news
I hope not.
For me, it's weird to already speak of 5th gen, since 4th gen is still rising in popularity and doesn't seem to have reached its peak yet.Can kind of understand it on the other hand as there were quite some 4th gen groups that debuted years ago now and it seems weird to call groups that debuted last month the same gen as let's say Stray Kids, Itzy or even Ive.
6th gen? please not yet. 5th gen is barely there.
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Has 5th Gen started?
I'm glad that I'm not the only one asking this question:
Am I the only one who's not convinced that the Fifth Generation has even started?
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As a long-term Kpop fan:
1. It’s easier to see the gens the further away from them we get. Back in the day people were calling 2NE1 “3rd Gen” lol, when no one would say such a thing now.
2. Gens are like waves in the ocean. It’s impossible to pinpoint exactly where one starts and another ends, we tell them apart from their peaks.
We’re still in 4th gen because the 4th gen groups are still rising.
The idea that YG can have the most popular 3rd gen girl group, and at the end of their rise immediately launch another girl group, but that group is somehow 5th gen is laughable.
The idea that SM can have 3 bgs in 2nd edition, 2 bgs in 3rd, but then they missed 4th and Riize are 5th is also laughable.
We’re in 4th gen, and it will take an event like Exo’s Growl, or NewJeans Hype Boy to move us to 5th.
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None of these so called 5th gen groups have made an impact outside of Illit's debut. If Illit can get another bonafide hit in their next comeback, we can retroactively mark them as the beginning of 5th gen.
But looking at the rest of the rabble, none have made any national impact in Korea. The only other group that charted top 10 is KIOF but they're a 2023 group, it's impossible to consider them as 5th gen when 4th gen started in 2018. We need to look at the 2024 debut groups and later to pick out a true 5th gen pioneer, which rules out both KIOF and Baemon who are 4.75 gen.
Plus we need It Girls to start rising in Korea. Right now the only candidate is Wonhee. Nobody in Korea knows anyone from Meow, Izna, Heart or Kiii.
In 2018, we saw Wonyoung breathrough during PD48 and Izone. We need to see something similar for the 2024 and later groups.
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Not these generation stuff again..... Can't we just stop talk about it and put the concept in the grave? It made a sence for the 1-2 and mabye the 3rd generation, but after that it have more or less stoped makeing any sence.
And no, we don't have a 5th generation if we really need to try to use the concept. The "4th" maybe started around 2022 so we in that case have 3-4 years at least left with the 4th generation.
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As a long-term Kpop fan:
1. It’s easier to see the gens the further away from them we get. Back in the day people were calling 2NE1 “3rd Gen” lol, when no one would say such a thing now.
2. Gens are like waves in the ocean. It’s impossible to pinpoint exactly where one starts and another ends, we tell them apart from their peaks.
This is someting a have brought up a couple of times, as you say it's impossible to say when a generation starts and stops when you are right in middle of it. You need to wait couple of years and look back on the more obvious borderlines and when groups "peaked". We can now look back and see when groups like Girls' Generation and 2NE1 stopped being active and being the most popular groups and when other popular groups took over at the top (Twice/BP). The switch from 2nd/3rd is less clear, but the debut with New Jeans in 2022 and BM a bit later looks like a borderline to me when it's connected to the peak and decline of BP and Twice.
We are far from seeing any switch from a 4th to a "5th generation" at this point.
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As a long-term Kpop fan:
1. It’s easier to see the gens the further away from them we get. Back in the day people were calling 2NE1 “3rd Gen” lol, when no one would say such a thing now.
2. Gens are like waves in the ocean. It’s impossible to pinpoint exactly where one starts and another ends, we tell them apart from their peaks.
We’re still in 4th gen because the 4th gen groups are still rising.
True.
Back when Stray Kids debuted, people called them 3rd gen or 3.5 gen. Now everyone calls them 4th gen.
The moment people really started saying 4th gen had started was with Itzy and TXT debuted, but retroactively some groups who had debuted earlier where also put in 4th gen.
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Honestly yeah
These new groups are trainwrecks, let's not allow them to taint 4th gen
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it would seem so judging by the comments of korea media and Korean GP
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