do you ever imagine how big 2NE1 would be now if Park Bom scandal had never happened

I doubt it would have changed what unfolded.

If ifs fixed problems, we’d have none left

Not sure if Park Bom's controversy was the main issue.

Even without that, you'd still have a dissatisfied Minzy leaving the group in 2015 - and she was the vastly underrated and underappreciated stable foundation of the group being their best vocalist AND their best dancer.

You'd also still have the issue with Teddy only sparingly releasing new songs, as well as YG's new girl group upcoming, that YG liked better and that would've gotten the bulk of YG's resources.

Just like your other 'what if,' it would make little diference. They were already falling apart and being replaced at that point.

coulda woulda shoulda

with all due respect to 2ne1 - kpop is littered with what ifs

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They, like sushi and wg, would have met their end in 2019 with their 10 year contracts expiring. But at least they would've made it to 10 years

2ne1 still had a lot of issues outside Bom's drug scandal

I'm not sure if they'd have made it to 10 years. As every K-pop fan recalls who was already around those days, YG made sure to emphasize 2NE1 would have a comeback and new album in short term, right after Minzy left. However, that Summer something happened, either there was some conflict or YG decided 2NE1 didn't work out without Minzy, whatever the case he decided to cancel all those comeback plans and chose for disbanding 2NE1 which he announced later on that year (without even notifying the 2NE1 members beforehand).

So I'm not sure they would've made the 10 years. Luckily, the story has some sort of happy ending, in that 2NE1 has made their comeback into YG not that long ago and now they can have their comebacks or new albums under YG again.

As for Soshi, they never disbanded or left SM (even if a few individual members did) and even had their comeback as SNSD two years ago, 15 years after their debut.

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They made it to 8, 2 more isn't impossible

The reason their comeback got scrapped had more to do with Bom not being in any condition to go on than Minzy leaving.

If that scandal hadn't of happened, she probably would have been in a much better mental state to push forward

Clear disbandment, soft disbandment, "indefinite hiatus" all the same in my book

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Hmm, yeah, YG also said he was the 'only one who disagreed about disbanding 2NE1' yet the 2NE1 girls all wanted to continue and they only got to learn about 2NE1's, their own group, disbandment via the media, not from YG and not beforehand...

Added to that, Blackpink debuted around that time.

As for 'indefinite hiatus', if you refer to SNSD with that, they had a song release in 2018 and comeback and album release in 2022.

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They are not an active group

They have not been in active group in 7+ years

They will likely never again be an active group

Just a group that reunites on significant years/special occasions.

There is no real difference between how SNSD, Kara, T-ara, SES, BEG etc move regardless of specific label

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SNSD's level of activity wasn't what I was discussing, I replied on your comment 'They, like sushi and wg, would have met their end in 2019 with their 10 year contracts expiring.'

Which was simply factually and de facto wrong: Wonder Girls officially disbanded as a group, neither did they have a comeback as a group afterwards. As for SNSD, in complete contrast with WG and your statement 1) SNSD never officially nor inofficially disbanded 2) it was even clearly stated that the group remains together even when some members went to pursue their solo career outside SM and 3) SNSD had group activities after 2017 and a comeback in 2021-2022. So no, SNSD did not meet their end in 2019 nor did their contract as a group expire, no matter how antis might claim those facts aren't the truth they are.

And I already answered about how unlikely it would still be that 2NE1 would make it till 2019 even without Bom's scandal. I think that Minzy's departure and what happened between YG and the remaining 2NE1 members that Summer after Minzy's leaving when they were supposed to work on their new album and comeback would still be the deciding factor, with a new, fresh group as Blackpink as replacement as the cherry on top. If you think otherwise, feel free to do so.

Not much different, they would have been shelved, this way their fans at least got goodbye song and now a reunion.

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And I've made it clearer what I meant: their activity and future as a group. You can split hairs and "well actually" as much as you like, it really doesn't matter to me

Ok. As long as it's clear what the differences are - and those differences are factually clear and obvious - it doesn't matter much to me as well.