Why are Big 3 GGs so weak in the newer generations?

It's all about how to music, promote and be on trend, so aside Hybe labels and SM, none getting it right with debuts.

JYP, their recent songs are sub-par

YG, doing ok. They are still very young and improving

SM, doing well with sudden influx of Kakao money, but will this money train end soon?

Hybe, MHJ is a cancer for all their GGs including NJs

I have high hopes for SMNGG honestly!

I guess they are training the girls and refining their debut songs so that they can hit big!

SM haven’t flopped with their GGS, maybe M.I.L.K, but they have quality ggs all the time!

nonsense

nmixx still has a pretty big fanbase considering their album sales are doing fine. Everyone knows they are a talented group but JYP keeps fumbling the bag and giving them awful songs. they just need to release a mega hit. babymonster is not even a yr old yet and already pretty big. aespa just had their biggest hit ever. seem to be doing okay

BP and TWICE?

You are talking about the highest earning Kpop GGs of all time for their respective companies. TWICE also has the most consecutive number 1 Circle (GAON) Songs for any JYPE Artists, so it's a tall order to think that YGE or JYPE are going to be able to repeat that level of success.

NMIXX are a multi-million dollar earning group, a far cry from JYPE GGs prior to TWICE and Studio J (Division 4s) highest earning Artist.

The Entertainment Industry isn't so simple that a Company will only produce GGs at the level of BP or TWICE whenever they debut a GG.

SM hasn’t missed with girl groups I’m curious if their new girl group can deliver! But to answer your question I think it’s the same reason people will rather wear a new unknown clothing brand or no brand at all. Giving new things a chance. The quality of non big 3/4 groups is just as good or even better than big 3/4 groups imo

Big 3/4 used to debut all rounders with top visuals and great music but now every company can debut top visuals that are incredibly talented and put out great music the era of big 3/4 dominating kpop is coming to an end

isn't this a good thing

it means the big3 need to get their asses into gear and no resting on one's laurels when newer (and older groups) can outdo them

competition begets competition

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NMIXX, BM are a far cry from BP and Twice. We are no longer in the era where girl groups of the big 3 automatically dominate. The last chance is SM’s upcoming gg but almost nothing is known about them. At least with Aespa we knew Ningning and some has some info on Minjung

and that's a good thing

RV/TWICE/BP still have a lot of fans on a chokehold. Might take some time for JYP and YG to find their true successors.

As for NMIXX and Baemon, their underwhelming debuts have kind of sealed their fates sadly. They might eventually recover, who knows.