Stray Kids' accident got me thinking how Lee Know needed some time away from idol life

They all needed the rest tbh. They look pretty much exhausted like you could tell even without overanalyzing. Jyp is being greedy as always. This company will see its downfall after some time. Hope skz leaves jyp as a group after the contract expires

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They all needed the rest tbh. They look pretty much exhausted like you could tell even without overanalyzing. Jyp is being greedy as always. This company will see its downfall after some time. Hope skz leaves jyp as a group after the contract expires

There you go cluelessly blaming the company. Do you not read or listen to anything chan says?

He on multiple occasions had said that the work etc the members are doing is their own commitment NOT the company forcing them to do something. He's even said on occasion that the company recommended a rest and they decided to ignore it and keep working.

But no it's the company fault 😂.

Just like when fans were blaming SM ent for taeil motorcycle crash, they can't force him to take the company van, if he wants to ride he as a free thinking adult can do that.

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There you go cluelessly blaming the company. Do you not read or listen to anything chan says?

He on multiple occasions had said that the work etc the members are doing is their own commitment NOT the company forcing them to do something. He's even said on occasion that the company recommended a rest and they decided to ignore it and keep working.

But no it's the company fault 😂.

Just like when fans were blaming SM ent for taeil motorcycle crash, they can't force him to take the company van, if he wants to ride he as a free thinking adult can do that.

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Idk no sane person would want to overwork themselves that they would faint at some point so I don't believe everything Chan says. Knowing how jyp always try to keep their reputation clean to the public they can make their idols say anything or make them apologize for things they didn't do. So I'm not surprised that Chan would say such thing. I know Koreans work hard but I don't believe that they work this hard on their own that they'll look exhausted unless their surroundings or society pressurizes them. And not to mention hyunjin and seungmin literally said on their bubble publicly that after a long time they were finally able to rest and sleep well instead of showing regrets for not being able to attend the fashion shows. So don't be ridiculous and delusional. They're humans not machines no one likes to overwork themselves.

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I have mixed feelings towards JYPE's management. I don't fully hate them and I can recognize the good things being on the Company through budget, connections and trust they put on the boys' skills brought to Stray Kids' career.

But I really dislike how some their schedules are chosen, fixed and balanced with existing schedules - what makes the members feel overwhelmed by work as they already mentioned since they have to prepare for many things at once.

As you mentioned, JYPE is so greedy and want to milk every bit of opportunity while they are on top and I don't know until where It's worth it If It will sacrifice their health.

I don't know If they will renew or not, I just want It to be the best decision for them

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This happens in all kpop agencies even hear the same stuff from Army regarding BTS. Either the company hates or mistreated you for not having schedules for you and now my supposedly rich kings are nugu and broke because not enough promotions and schedules etc. But at the same time give these idols packed schedules and world tours and the same shit is said but in reverse, its oh god they are slave drivers and overworked and gave them too much. Like what is the bar that makes fans happy?

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A balance is always the best option. There's some chosen schedules for Stray Kids that I think that are really unnecessary for an almost-6 years old group that had 2 tours on the same year to have and could've fit rookies-newer groups that need to be promoted to K-pop community more than them. But It's just my opinion.

That's the issue with an opinion. The balance you may consider fair. Maybe too little or too much for the members themselves, plus at the end of the day this shit they do isn't just some passion project its a JOB. Even if they left and started their own agency they'd still need to work very very hard. People don't think about all the business behind the scenes. Staff, a practice facility, recording studio dance studio film crew and production etc all costs$$$$$$$$$. Something they would have to pay for all the licenses and other expenses of running a company etc. They still shoulder a small portion of that by being part of a agency like JYP all idols in every company do part of the profit they make goes to paying everything. So whatever this "balance" is has to satisfy the financial stability of their company be it their own agency or another they work for. And be enough to satisfy them personally both monetarily and happiness wise. And nobody knows what this balance is besides the members and their business associates that have a better understanding of the industry.

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Idk no sane person would want to overwork themselves that they would faint at some point so I don't believe everything Chan says. Knowing how jyp always try to keep their reputation clean to the public they can make their idols say anything or make them apologize for things they didn't do. So I'm not surprised that Chan would say such thing. I know Koreans work hard but I don't believe that they work this hard on their own that they'll look exhausted unless their surroundings or society pressurizes them. And not to mention hyunjin and seungmin literally said on their bubble publicly that after a long time they were finally able to rest and sleep well instead of showing regrets for not being able to attend the fashion shows. So don't be ridiculous and delusional. They're humans not machines no one likes to overwork themselves.

The great bangchan himself said

Bang Chan: Do u know what I hate the most tho?

Bang Chan: When people think that they’re trying to help but they’re actually not lol

Bang Chan: You know what I mean?

Better believe chan than some random poser who think they know everything

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The things that I'm considering too much wouldn't make them any less rich, neither the agency.

For example, we all can understand the importance of some schedules they had this year such as Lollapalooza, Global Citizen, VMAs. These are events that will help them to gain visibity to a public that might not be aware about their work.

But there's no point to send them to K-pop events in countries they are touring regularly and have to take several flights and crossing the world after having two concerts 2 days before such event. There's no point to put a 6-year old group to perform several weeks on Music Shows that won't do them any favors, while they are already preparing and doing rehearsals for concerts and special events at the same time. Then, when they have to be in schedules that are really monerality important and will be helpful to their career, they are tired from an avalanche of not-that-important schedules.

And It's not me who is overanalyzing, It's what they are saying they've been frustrated about.

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Chan said and i quote everything is my decision, my rules. Stop overthinking and over react. Its not early 2000s anymore. There is no more slave contract. Idol in big company nowadays get to involved in deciding their activities

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The great bangchan himself said

Bang Chan: Do u know what I hate the most tho?

Bang Chan: When people think that they’re trying to help but they’re actually not lol

Bang Chan: You know what I mean?

Better believe chan than some random poser who think they know everything

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Nobody's trying to help anybody here. We all have the right to criticise the company. I don't understand why do you get so defensive when ppl criticize Jyp? I'm not believing some random poser either I'm believing my own intuition and conscience. Twice was overworked too so I don't think it's a coincidence that skz are being overworked as well.