The happy girl groups with their MAMA trophees

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    well always where there are daughters, there are also mothers

    askin did you forget about us MNet? where is our trophee for 15th year long career

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  • I don't think they get money unless there's something in their contract like a bonus or something

    but they do get more recognition and more brand deals and cfs and such

    Yeah, probably. I've seen those little charts that tell you about how much percentage the idols themselves are making from certain things. I hear that they make their most money off of their concerts, fanmeets, things like that and they get a fraction of album sales and such.

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  • Yeah, probably. I've seen those little charts that tell you about how much percentage the idols themselves are making from certain things. I hear that they make their most money off of their concerts, fanmeets, things like that and they get a fraction of album sales and such.

    which is why royalties and copyright holders get so much money since they get more of a cut every time a song is listened to

  • which is why royalties and copyright holders get so much money since they get more of a cut every time a song is listened to

    Very interesting... :/

    I was reading that Spotify pays their artisrs anywhere from $0.001 to $0.008 USD per stream which isn't jack squat. And the artists are paid 70% of that where their side has to pay Spotify 30% of their stream money. So even if you have millions of Spotify streams, it is nothing.


    So imagine having to divde that 70% of nothing among all members, everyone who worked on making the song happen and the company. The members would get close to nothing.

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  • Very interesting... :/

    I was reading that Spotify pays their artisrs anywhere from $0.001 to $0.008 USD per stream which isn't jack squat. And the artists are paid 70% of that where their side has to pay Spotify 30% of their stream money. So even if you have millions of Spotify streams, it is nothing.


    So imagine having to divde that 70% of nothing among all members, everyone who worked on making the song happen and the company. The members would get close to nothing.

    that seems about right and I think even the artists get even less of a cut compared to the other copyright holders

  • that seems about right and I think even the artists get even less of a cut compared to the other copyright holders

    True...so when people say that artists get paid nothing for Spotify streams, believe them lmao :cryingr:

    But imagine if you're an indie artist and got your music on there. And you ended up being popular on Spotify or at least had a good way to promote your music.


    You're probably making some money :/

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  • that seems about right and I think even the artists get even less of a cut compared to the other copyright holders


    True...so when people say that artists get paid nothing for Spotify streams, believe them lmao :cryingr:

    But imagine if you're an indie artist and got your music on there. And you ended up being popular on Spotify or at least had a good way to promote your music.


    You're probably making some money :/

    The guy who wrote "All About That Bass" by Meghan Trainer said he got paid $5,600 after 178 million streams and 1.7 billion views on YouTube. He wrote AND produced the song. This was in 2014. Because of him, songwriters were able to build a case to take to the government to force Spotify to pay more. So, it used to be even worse.

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  • The guy who wrote "All About That Bass" by Meghan Trainer said he got paid $5,600 after 178 million streams and 1.7 billion views on YouTube. He wrote AND produced the song. This was in 2014. Because of him, songwriters were able to build a case to take to the government to force Spotify to pay more. So, it used to be even worse.

    What the hell? That's literally nothing compared to the amount of streams that they got on both platforms... ||


    I hope he got paid better by the company...


    I was hearing that for YouTube, the way their pay supposedly works is that they get anywhere from $0.01 to $0.03 USD per YouTube ad views. So if there are 1,000 YouTube ad view on a monetized video, that would be roughly $18 (which if you think about it, if you keep releasing videos that are monetized, you can keep making money for it and one of the reasons why creators go the extra mile in making sure their video is not demonetized) but most YouTubers make more of their money off of merch sales or anything like that and sponsorships. And I think the way sponsorships work is if people buy their product using your code that they provided for you, then you get some of that money or something like that.


    So I kind of laugh when people think it's easy to make money off of YouTube. You would have to work incredibly hard. First of all, you would have to reach 1,000 subscribers and a certain amount of views minimum (which, even though with some of the new features YouTube has it makes it easier, it's a hard feat in itself). And then you don't make any money until you start getting a lot of views and subscribers.

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  • Also depends on the kind of content you make on YouTube. Most YouTubers with the views and subs required make money from the ad revenue they get on their videos. The more people who watch their videos, the more ads are shown, and the YouTuber is getting paid a cut of that. However, for videos like reactions, those are copyrighted, so most YouTubers don't get money from copyrighted content. Those kind of YouTubers depend even MORE on those sponsorships and merch sells.

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  • Also depends on the kind of content you make on YouTube. Most YouTubers with the views and subs required make money from the ad revenue they get on their videos. The more people who watch their videos, the more ads are shown, and the YouTuber is getting paid a cut of that. However, for videos like reactions, those are copyrighted, so most YouTubers don't get money from copyrighted content. Those kind of YouTubers depend even MORE on those sponsorships and merch sells.

    Oh, really? That's very interesting, I wasn't aware of that.

    But I don't think that all reaction videos are copyrighted. I don't think reacting to things like TikTok or Dhar Mann would get you copyrighted (TikTok if you don't use the sound audio and implement free audio or even no audio at all). And for instance, I'm an avid watcher of SSSniperwolf and she doesn't do that many sponsorships in her videos and her merch shop isn't up all the time.


    But I can definitely see that happening for those that react to music videos, shows, things like that.


    But yeah, it does make sense because the only way you are going to be monetized through adsense is if you don't have copyrighted videos or videos that might be senstive to the public (basically if your video breaches the terms and conditions). So I think it's interesting when YouTubers show how they try to bend heaven and eath to keep tehir vidoes monetized)

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  • Yes, I was referring to mostly music videos since that's the only reaction I generally watch.


    For TikTok, it also depends on if the creator has made their content downloadable, I think. If they have not made it so you can download and save their videos, then you would be using their copyrighted content without permission. At least, I know that is the case on TikTok. YouTube probably would not know or even look into it unless the video was reported.

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  • Yes, I was referring to mostly music videos since that's the only reaction I generally watch.


    For TikTok, it also depends on if the creator has made their content downloadable, I think. If they have not made it so you can download and save their videos, then you would be using their copyrighted content without permission. At least, I know that is the case on TikTok. YouTube probably would not know or even look into it unless the video was reported.

    Ah, I see. That makes sense then. I find it hard to see why someone reacting to music videos wouldn't be copyrighted. Even if they were to mute out the audio, companies can still copyright the video itself (trust me, I've encountered where companies would copyright the video as well). And even if they did mute the audio or not show the video, it would still detract from the whole point of it. So that, I can definitely understand.


    Interesting... :/

    I wouldn't know since I don't use TikTok and my source of those videos is YouTube Shorts or big YouTubers reacting to TikTok compilations (like SSSniperwolf or KallMeKris) because that's also a big thing these days apparently, so I'm used to videos being reacted to there.


    But how does copyrighting TikTok videos work and what sort of content would it be? I don't really know since it's a platform where you can recycle others' uploaded sounds and do the split screen reactions.

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  • The guy who wrote "All About That Bass" by Meghan Trainer said he got paid $5,600 after 178 million streams and 1.7 billion views on YouTube. He wrote AND produced the song. This was in 2014. Because of him, songwriters were able to build a case to take to the government to force Spotify to pay more. So, it used to be even worse.

    the question would be is Spotify paying overall more - ie. more to the artists and the copyright holders or did Spotify just move money around and pay the same overall but just a bigger share to the copyright holders and less to the artists

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